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Response to GGJohn (Original post)

Thu May 28, 2015, 02:38 PM

26. Pardon my dissent on this (sticks up hat on stick to draw fire).....

......but, if you're going to assume that the figures cited simple mean that people are lying to pollsters, you're going to have to make the following assumptions:
  1. The percentage of liars has increased sharply from 1985 to 2014. and
  2. young people under 35 are much more likely to lie to pollsters, and
  3. that percentage of young liars has been increasing since 1980 (Damn kids!).


The decline in hunting is due largely to:
  1. US society being more urbanized than in the 1980s. (Note than young people today are less likely to own a car; they frequently use urban mass transit.),
  2. People working two more more jobs have less time for sports like hunting and/or target shooting, and
  3. they have less money to spend on guns and gun sport.


As for guns for self-defense, I would simply point out that both violent crime and fear of violent crime peaked in the 1980s. Both have been in decline; although the drop-off in fear of violent crime lagged the decline in violence by several years.

By the way, I'm an urban apartment dweller, living on an area bounded on the east by a poorer, more violent area. I've actually heard gunshot within a block or two of my complex. I still don't see either the need or utility of owning a gun.

And no, I'm not RKBA, I do favor sensible gun regulations, especially in urban areas.

(pulls back hat on stick to count bullet holes!)

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