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pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
21. Just one example of the CDC's gross dishonesty:
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:49 AM
Jun 2015

The pathetic whining re. funding for the CDC is hilarious given the fact that they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the gun restriction debate: (emphasis added)

"Understandably, the CDC Report offered no supporting reference for its claim of parallelism. However, the inventive Dr. Diane Schetky, and two equally inventive CDC writers--Gordon Smith and Henry Falk--in a separate article actually do provide purportedly supporting citations for the claim that "handguns account for only 20% of the firearms in use today, but they are involved in the majority of both criminal and unintentional firearm injuries."[265] The problems with this claim are that the claim is false in every respect and that the citations are fabrications. The purpose of the claim is to exaggerate the comparative risks of handguns vis-a-vis long guns so as to fortify the cause of handgun prohibition and avoid admitting the major problem we have already addressed--that, because handguns are innately far safer than long guns, if a handgun ban caused defensive gun owners to keep loaded long guns instead (as handgun ban advocates and experts concur would be the case), thousands more might die in fatal gun accidents annually.[266]

The only citation given by either Schetky or Smith and Falk to support their claim that handguns comprise only 20% of all guns, yet are involved in 90% of gun accidents and crime, is the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports.[267] Understandably, no page citations are given, because the citations are simply falsified. As anyone familiar with the Uniform Crime Reports knows, they provide no data on gun ownership, and thus no comparative data on handgun versus long gun ownership. Nor do the Uniform Crime Reports provide data on accidents in general, thus no data on gun accidents, and thus no comparative data on the incidence of handgun accidents versus long guns accidents. Schetky, Smith, and Falk could have found data on these matters in the National Safety Council's Accident Facts, but those data would not have suited their purpose because these statistics do not support the point they sought to make.&quot p. 578)

See Section XIII -- A Critique of Overt Mendacity:

http://www.guncite.com/journals/tennmed.html

What's wrong with the DOJ's Unified Crime Report? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #1
So we can't do research on gun violence because of GOP paranoia... SunSeeker Jun 2015 #2
They can still do research, what they can't do is be biased about it, GGJohn Jun 2015 #3
Bullshit. They blocked ALL funding. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #5
You can say bullshit all you want, but the reality is that Pres. Obama issued an EO GGJohn Jun 2015 #6
I was talking about the Republicans. THEY did not approve one dime for ANY research. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #7
You really ought to keep in mind that the same committee which voted this down Shamash Jun 2015 #8
Just can't admit when you're wrong can you? GGJohn Jun 2015 #9
I am not wrong. My words are accurate. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #10
Your words were, and I quote: Shamash Jun 2015 #11
The Dems had a filibuster proof majority for all of 24 working days. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #13
Ah, so Democrats didn't think it was -worth- making Republicans filibuster against Shamash Jun 2015 #14
45,000 people a year were dying without healthcare, hence healthcare reform was the priority. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #15
Thank you for reminding me of the wonderful job we did on the ACA Shamash Jun 2015 #16
You're welcome. And no, my quote that you cite never mentioned the House. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #17
Oh, I see, GGJohn Jun 2015 #12
Yanno, if your side keeps trying to ban "assault weapons"... krispos42 Jun 2015 #18
Yanno, gun ownership is falling. Most guns are owned by gun hoarding fetishists. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #19
a record low since the 1970s gejohnston Jun 2015 #20
Bans on modern-looking rifles and magazines *do* target mainstream gun owners, not criminals, benEzra Jun 2015 #22
I doubt the polls. krispos42 Jun 2015 #23
Again with the insults, do you know how to have a conversation? n/t oneshooter Jun 2015 #24
Yet the DoJ through the NIJ is doing it gejohnston Jun 2015 #4
Just one example of the CDC's gross dishonesty: pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #21
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