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benEzra

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17. What make/model AK, and how many rounds through it?
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 09:32 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:36 PM - Edit history (1)

How did you assess that it was a Chinese variant, how was it lubricated, and what magazines did you use? Was this a civilian non-automatic, or a clapped out military full auto, and were you getting double feeds, bolt over base, failure to cycle/eject, or feed ramp hangups? Were they x39's, or .223 conversions?

I shot a SAR-1 (Romanian non-automatic AK derivative, 7.62x39mm) competitively in the early 2000's, mostly with steel-case ammo, and never once had a failure of any kind in ~2,000 rounds. Trigger pull wasn't as good as an AR or a nicer bolt action, but certainly as good as a Glock and better than my Ruger Ranch Rifle. Accuracy is as good as a Winchester .30-30 if you stuck to the fundamentals and used the sights like you're supposed to instead of trying to shoot like some idiot in a B-movie, and the safety was secure and very well designed. The Soviets considered them effective out to 300 meters, and mine would keep every round in the black at 200 yards with decent ammo and a 1x optic. Given their reputation for reliability and extreme durability, coupled with my own experience, I'd say your experience was an extreme outlier.

As to Uzi's, they have always been regarded as very high quality firearms, as are most Israeli designs, but they've never been common in this country and have always been something of a collector's item. Perhaps you're confusing them with the civilian Intratecs? AFAIK, China never imported any, and I doubt IMI would have licensed their production; the only non-IMI's I'm aware of were made by a U.S. company under license.

Out of curiousity, do you feel about AR's? You certainly can't claim those are low quality, inaccurate, unsafe designs, or commonly misused.

Hillary Clinton Talks Gun Policy [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2015 OP
Well, let's get specific HassleCat Aug 2015 #1
"3. Enact consumer protection legislation to protect people from cheap firearms" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #2
Has there been a problem with cheap guns blowing up and hurting people? hack89 Aug 2015 #3
Comment on your comments discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #4
^^^ This pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #5
Subjective HassleCat Aug 2015 #10
are you sure you don't live in a SYG state? gejohnston Aug 2015 #13
Serious question: Do you know why SYG laws have been adopted? NT pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #18
I woud say blind fear HassleCat Aug 2015 #19
"I would say blind fear." pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #20
"If you have to ask what good that would do, you probably don't know..." beevul Aug 2015 #6
Post #1 was full of generalities, as apparently that poster doesn't want to be pinned down friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #7
So, I read number 3 as 'fuck poor people'. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #8
I have question gejohnston Aug 2015 #12
Ummm, you realize that an actual Uzi submachinegun is $5,000 to $10,000 benEzra Aug 2015 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #21
Like any professional politician, ManiacJoe Aug 2015 #9
I guess I touched a nerve HassleCat Aug 2015 #11
which is what he should have in the first place gejohnston Aug 2015 #14
I'm just playing know-it-all HassleCat Aug 2015 #15
What make/model AK, and how many rounds through it? benEzra Aug 2015 #17
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