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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
22. Pew's new poll!
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:43 PM
Sep 2015

beevul: Which was it, a deliberate misrepresentation on your part, or substandard reading skills that inadvertently led to a misrepresentation of what I actually said?

No retraction, I said what I wanted; I think 25% to 50% of gun owners would agree with continuing the ban on gun shops in Chicago, esp inner city Chicago, due to risk of break ins, straw sales, Chicagoans opposition, and MORE!

beevul: Do we need to plan on that little blurb being right at the top every reply I make to you, so long as it remains unaddressed?

Go ahead, won't bother me at all. Unleash your wolf.

beevul: I'd ask how that squares with our party platform, but we already know the answer to that. Every last pro-gun regular on DU is closer to the party platform than you are.

You mean the individual rkba? likely split about half & half, but reconcile this:

In general, do you think laws covering the sale of guns should be made more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now?"
..............More strict -- Less strict -- Kept as they are -- Unsure/ No answer
7/29 - 8/2/15 52 ...........13 ................... 32 .......................2
Democrats ...... 77 ...........4 .................... 18....................... 1

http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm

Guess what?!! Pew has a new poll which contradicts (countermands?) its last one! (tho I guess they didn't change the wording) Wow a swing of 5% pts, new differential from +6 guns, to +3 gun control, swing of 9! ..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!:

same link: Pew. July 14-20, 2015. N=2,002 adults nationwide.
"What do you think is more important -- to protect the right of Americans to own guns, or to control gun ownership?"
Protect right to own guns .... Control ownership ... Unsure/ Refused
7/14-20/15 ..... 47 .........................50 .............................3
12/3-7/14 ....... 52 .........................46 .............................3



The question I have is Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #1
Very good questions SwissTony Sep 2015 #2
I have a bad connection Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #3
Fair enough. SwissTony Sep 2015 #4
When you find the actual numbers , please share Hangingon Sep 2015 #7
Oh yeah? sarisataka Sep 2015 #29
Do they still allow CC, and AR type firearms and magazines. ileus Sep 2015 #5
Oh, boy. "a fundamental right to self defense with firearms" SwissTony Sep 2015 #6
but you had gun control before gejohnston Sep 2015 #8
We had gun control, but John Howard tightened things up. SwissTony Sep 2015 #13
the fact that Howard gejohnston Sep 2015 #24
it was undemocratic in that he didn't put the question to a formal referendum. SwissTony Sep 2015 #26
because you wanted it or you were manipulated to wanting it gejohnston Sep 2015 #28
Post Script gejohnston Sep 2015 #30
FFS, do you really claim that knife and gun are the same in a mass murder? Which would you.... Logical Sep 2015 #31
The worst is arson. gejohnston Sep 2015 #32
Worst? No, but much easier. Wow, you are not a deep thinker I assume. nt Logical Sep 2015 #33
I was thinking more in gejohnston Sep 2015 #34
2 things discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #9
I'm sorry to say I probably agree with point 1. SwissTony Sep 2015 #15
About that... beevul Sep 2015 #19
A few more things discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #35
people only attack with firearms and in equal numbers and strength? ileus Sep 2015 #10
Sorry, mate. i don't know what you're saying here. n/t SwissTony Sep 2015 #16
He's saying - Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #46
He's saying "Paranoia rules!" Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #55
Are you saying all confrontations favor or are equal to the capabilities of the victim? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #56
Of course confrontations happen Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #57
"It's how we deal with them that determines what kind of society we live in." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #58
No, but I think the fear of them should be dealt with in the appropriate way Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #59
People make all sort of preparations for all sorts unfortunate events. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #60
I have no emotional response to guns, rational or irrational. Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #61
It's definitely irrational if you think criminals don't strike in public. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #62
Then we have a very different idea of what is rational. Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #64
What is reasonable about demanding people not defend themselves outside their homes? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #66
Where did I say you should not defend yourself outside the home? Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #68
The problem is -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #71
And my point is... Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #74
controllers want prohibition for its own sake gejohnston Sep 2015 #77
"If the US wants to remain credible in terms of basic societal norms..." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #79
Wow, I guess I'm learning something new every day Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #81
I'm aware of the Magna Carta and ancient democracies Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #86
You are "aware" of Magna Carta? Well, say no more. Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #89
It's amusing that you can fabricate so many things about what freedom is or isn't and yet Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #96
Rationality and emotion. Straw Man Sep 2015 #63
Then let me clarify Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #65
"How one chooses to do that is a whole other question." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #67
OK I think we're done here Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #69
Explain how there is an ounce of difference about how innocent people Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #70
It only makes a difference if you care about what kind of society you want to live in Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #72
personally, gejohnston Sep 2015 #75
That's a meaningless statement. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #78
Not at all. I don't give a shit if you all carry guns. Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #80
For someone who doesn't care Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #85
your stats are not only wrong gejohnston Sep 2015 #73
Further clarification. Straw Man Sep 2015 #76
You seem determined to paint me as some kind of controller. Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #82
This is what you, a subject of the crown, want. oneshooter Sep 2015 #83
Thank you for letting me know what I want Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #84
You paint yourself ... Straw Man Sep 2015 #87
Right! Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #90
When the countries in Europe, including the UK, started gejohnston Sep 2015 #88
I could buy a gun tomorrow legally Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #91
Several questions. Straw Man Sep 2015 #92
Italy Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #93
you realize many of the laws are hold overs from gejohnston Sep 2015 #95
Actually, the laws are pretty new and constantly evolving. Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #98
there have been changes, gejohnston Sep 2015 #100
Lots of things go back to the time of Il Duce Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #102
the hunting regulation is common in the States gejohnston Sep 2015 #105
Ah, Italy. Straw Man Sep 2015 #97
Not anyone can walk in and buy a gun Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #101
sorry, wrong again gejohnston Sep 2015 #104
Anyone living in the country should have equal rights in terms of self defense Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #106
what evidence do you have race is the reason? gejohnston Sep 2015 #108
These stunts exemplify the reality. Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #110
neither gejohnston Sep 2015 #111
Sorry, not familiar with Air Strip One or Piers Morgan Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #115
Never read 1984? gejohnston Sep 2015 #119
Yes I read 1984 Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #120
hatred towards Obama has little to do with race gejohnston Sep 2015 #121
You haven't answered ... Straw Man Sep 2015 #107
rights should not be up for public debate gejohnston Sep 2015 #94
Do you know how many guns have been confiscated from the total in the country? Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #12
I have no information on that subject, but it was a pretty impressive number SwissTony Sep 2015 #18
Regarding Australia... benEzra Sep 2015 #11
your common misconceptions jimmy the one Sep 2015 #14
jimmy the wizard of OZ jimmy the one Sep 2015 #20
your common misconception, #2 jimmy the one Sep 2015 #17
First things first, James. We have unfinished business, you and I. beevul Sep 2015 #21
Pew's new poll! jimmy the one Sep 2015 #22
I'll take that as a concession. beevul Sep 2015 #23
The pro-gun regulars also don't defend those who work against Democrats seeking reelection... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #25
Exactly. N/T beevul Sep 2015 #27
gun retrieval, not confiscation jimmy the one Sep 2015 #36
Says you. beevul Sep 2015 #37
This is the same person that finds it acceptable to attack Dems seeking reelection: friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #38
Yup. It is truly astonishing. beevul Sep 2015 #41
compensation in the buyback jimmy the one Sep 2015 #42
The confiscation, you mean. beevul Sep 2015 #44
So if some future president abolished voting but paid each voter $475 you'd be okay with that. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #47
Tapdance all you want, it was and is confiscation: friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #39
You are also using a cheap and obvious appeal to authority friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #40
go fetch jimmy the one Sep 2015 #43
"bring back to a more satisfactory state" Back to something that did not exist previously... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #45
Did the owners have the right to decline? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #48
confiscatio jimmy the one Sep 2015 #49
they offered compensation only because gejohnston Sep 2015 #50
If the owners had no choice and the government did not own the property then it was confiscation. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #51
nero & caligula, tyrants? jimmy the one Sep 2015 #54
holy sh.. beergood Sep 2015 #99
make your argument or rebuttal then jimmy the one Sep 2015 #103
So you cite Nero and Caligula. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #109
revise to worst ROMAN dictators in history jimmy the one Sep 2015 #112
Speaking of Roman dictators sarisataka Sep 2015 #113
not bankrupt, your post is jimmy the one Sep 2015 #116
Words usually have several definitions sarisataka Sep 2015 #118
more pathetic jimmy the one Sep 2015 #122
I found the use of the word sarisataka Sep 2015 #123
Just...this. beevul Sep 2015 #124
Bankruptcy. Straw Man Sep 2015 #125
As I said, weirder and weirder. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #114
some of us have too much time on our hands n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #117
Nothing so melodramatic or biased, james... beevul Sep 2015 #52
"Icon and I simply know how to read a dictionary..." No doubt James can also read quite well friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #53
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