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Response to aurelius2112 (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:51 PM

13. gun studies by the VPC is like a climate change study

by the American Petrolium Institute or Koch Industries. I seriously doubt the "researchers" followed the scientific method by not starting with the conclusion they want and create a "study" to make it look academic. IOW, the thinking person dismisses them out of hand.

Criminologists, as reflected in the CDC study done in 2013, mostly agree that DGUs are quite common.

Closing loop-holes, better pre-screening for mental health and increased rigor with mandatory firearm training could be points that everyone in the USA could agree upon.
Why? What critieria for "mental health" would be used? They are very rarely violent, and those are almost impossible to detect. What does mandatory training do? Accidents are almost nonexistent as it is. What "loop hole"? A loop hole, like "assault weapon" is whatever some politician decides it is. None of them would actually do anything. We have a gang problem. We have over a million gang members in 35K gangs. Most of our murders are concentrated in a few urban areas, while the rest of the country has European level murder rates. If you look at our most northern states, most of them have lower murder rates than the Canadian provinces they border.

Those urban areas have murder rates like Brazil, Mexico, and Venezuela. Here is a list of the the most violent cities. Most of them are in South America, but it lists places like Baltimore and Chicago.
What do they have in common? It isn't lax gun laws. Here is the real issue because all of them, including the US cities, had all of these in common
extreme wealth inequality
poor and crumbling infrastructure. Flint isn't alone nor the first with undrinkable water, it just made the news.
violent drug gangs
political corruption

Until we deal with those, we can have stricter than UK gun laws like Brazil and Mexico, or a complete ban like Venezuela, and none of it will make a difference.


http://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2015-1

One more thing, the NRA's "big money" is about the same as Planned Parenthood, look it up on Open Secrets. What they really do is mobilize the grassroots.

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