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Response to aurelius2112 (Reply #56)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:47 PM

59. Its not conjecture.

 

Although I have chuckled at your attempts to try and judge my character and genuineness, as I read the previous posts, I can ascertain, that you view everyone who is anti-gun as not sincere with their posts and full of "pretense".


Your talking points are awash in false pretense and incorrect information. How many examples from this thread would you like? How any of us views "everyone who is anti-gun" is not the question. How any of us would could and should view someone using well worn anti-gun talking points and false pretenses IS the question, because that's what YOU have done in just about every post in this thread.

As I have tried to propose many different ideas to reduce the amount of firearm deaths, you relish in tearing them down. Yet you never propose anything yourself except the status quo.


That, is a typical anti-gun talking point. I told you earlier, think outside the gun control box. If you want to know how most of us feel about it, think of a huge barricade around the right to keep and bear arms, that keeps grubby anti-gun mitts out. Work outside of it and you'll get no resistance from us.

But that's just never good enough for you anti-gun folks is it.

Solution based strategy.
Lets use your data from the FBI and DOJ (hopefully we can get CDC data in the future)
Shall we break up the deaths into the FBI categories, and start naming ideas to reduce the death ratios by category?
Shall we separate the guns into categories and list what guns are off limits and what guns should have more ownership filters?
How would you like the solution analysis to work? (another chance for you to dodge with your own question, yet there's more chances coming.......)


Work outside the barricade with your solutions, and you'll meet no resistance.

Point three:
Trade off?
No ban on semi-autos?


Well well well. Offering what we already have as a bargaining chip to get what you want. Still wonder why nobody trusts anti-gunners?

I've been waiting for at least one objective from the pro-gun side other than the typical "hell no" to any change.


Overall, for people like you to leave us, our guns, and our rights alone.

What is the pro-gun cause?


To see our rights respected as rights rather than privileges.

Just say no to everything?


No. Only that which is objectionable

Increased mandatory training for new gun owners (to reduce the amount of accidental deaths.)


No. Not for "gun owners", and not "as a condition of buying a gun". If you're going to impose gun safety training, make it universal.

12th grade high school nationwide. Universal

Add new law to force background checks at every level i.e. gun shows. (is there a reason to object to this?)


First, what problem would it solve/mitigate, and how big a problem is that problem?


Second, what are you willing to give up in return?

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