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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
5. no it doesn't
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jun 2016

Do you seriously believe a law would deter a terrorist from getting a semi auto in the US when Europe, Thailand, and Israel can't stop them from getting machine guns? Why do you think it would more effective than our drug laws, heroin kills more people homicide. Illegal opiates kill more people than all gun deaths combined. How is that ban working out?
What's even worse, these people are talking about shredding the fifth amendment along with the second. Think about that.
Here is Joe Manshin's words

“The problem we have and really the firewall that we have right now is due process. It’s all due process. So we can all say, yeah, we want the same thing but how do we get there?” If a person is on the terrorist watch list like the gentleman, the shooter in Orlando, he was twice by the FBI, we were briefed yesterday about what happened, but that man was brought in twice. They did everything they could. The FBI did everything they were supposed to do, but there was no way for them to keep him on the nix list or keep him off the gun buy list. There was no way to do that. So can’t we say that if a person’s under suspicion, there should be a five-year period of time of time that we have to see if good behavior, if this person continues the same traits, maybe we can come to that type of an agreement? But due process is what’s killing us now.”

That isn't bashing the guy, that is his exact quote. He probably does a good job in fighting for liberal values and for the people in WV. But on this, he is wrong and illiberal.
https://ethicsalarms.com/2016/06/16/ethics-observations-on-the-unethical-quote-of-the-week-by-senator-joe-manshin-d-wv/

Ben Franklin is a personal hero of mine. His famous quote about liberty and security comes to mind.
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