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Gun Control & RKBA

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

17. "You know that facts, are NRA talking points"

Reply to virginia mountainman (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 11, 2016, 11:54 AM

Aug 2016

The line of argument you're (rightfully) mocking always struck me as more of a concession than a rebuttal.

If another party is considered the nemesis and one's interlocutor has no rebuttal except to note that a certain line of argumentation comes from the nemesis then the interlocutor is stating the nemesis is in possession of facts that cannot be refuted.

That seems to bolster the position of the nemesis while undermining the interlocutor.

And yet, they seem so proud of such things. It's really inexplicable.

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Some inconvienent statistics for MA rifle ban supporters: [View all] friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 OP

That is very interesting Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #1

Stop using facts on them, that's mean and unfair! Lurks Often Aug 2016 #2

This of necessity does not take into account the very likely increase in future long gun deaths due Ford_Prefect Aug 2016 #3

Some questions and data: discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #4

Damn, those pesky facts again Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #5

Excellent reply, but I rather doubt your trenchant observations and questions will get a response friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #8

Landfills are going to be gold mines in the future. ileus Aug 2016 #7

Of course market saturation applies. benEzra Aug 2016 #9

Would you like to know how I know those 'concerns' are bullshit? Behold: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #14

Overall violent crime rate also went down, from 466.6/100K to 391.4 friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #16

Facts don't matter....they feel good. That's the desired result. ileus Aug 2016 #6

In a month or two the "Grabnutz" will tell us how effective it is DonP Aug 2016 #10

"Grabnutz" ^^^ Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #11

Mass. murder-by-rifle rate over 8 years: 1.14 per year. Huge number( ). Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #12

That's not the rate, that's the actual number of murders-by-rifle per year (on average) friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #13

Now now.. virginia mountainman Aug 2016 #15

"You know that facts, are NRA talking points" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #17

But when it becomes acceptable to simply impugn the source... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #18

It's a one-sided affair. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #20

"Those who demand I not even look at a thing lest it corrupt me" beergood Aug 2016 #22

Due to certain double standards... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #23

The line of argument that always strikes me as stupid.. EX500rider Aug 2016 #19

"Designed". beevul Aug 2016 #21