Those yutz's are simply following the lead of early Controllers........ (Reply #19)

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Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:51 PM

19. Those yutz's are simply following the lead of early Controllers........

........as "gun control" has involved absolute fabrication from day one.

The first moral panic I recall involved the non-existent "plastic gun". The Glock that supposedly could pass undetected through airport screening ----- even though it had more than ten times the metal required to set off metal detectors, and the X-ray technology of the day had no trouble picking up it's outline. What a national disgrace that a ban of "plastic guns" actually made it through Congress. And a decade (or more) after Democrats stopped talking about this non-threat, Rachel Maddow attacked Dick Cheney for voting against the legislation.

The stupid is damn embarrassing, and damn politically costly.

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90 replies	Author	Time	Post
Gun Control has devolved to absolute fabrication [View all]	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2016	OP
I have seen that and laugh	Duckhunter935	Aug 2016	#1
A jury removed a post of mine because I stated that Bill Clinton signed major gun legislation	krispos42	Aug 2016	#2
Recounting the fact Bill Clinton signed a law they want reenacted is a RW smear?	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2016	#3
I agree	Duckhunter935	Aug 2016	#5
I like the appeal process	Duckhunter935	Aug 2016	#4
That is ridiculous.	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#36
It was, thankfully.	krispos42	Sep 2016	#44
Given enough manure a bad idea will grow.	JonathanRackham	Aug 2016	#6
They really are pathetic, but the lies are all they have	Lurks Often	Aug 2016	#7
I don't want to get into the habit of doing what they do: Congratulating ourselves	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2016	#8
Agreed n/t	Lurks Often	Aug 2016	#11
Well, lies and misplaced hope	DonP	Aug 2016	#10
I find it especially ironic	sarisataka	Aug 2016	#9
I know, right, lol	Duckhunter935	Aug 2016	#18
Change a few words...	beevul	Aug 2016	#12
That description also holds for another group at DU. eom	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#37
Which group would that be seeing as this group welcomes debate?	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#39
Agreed. But I was talking about another group.	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#41
Just look at who is behind the controllers....and what motivates them.	ileus	Aug 2016	#13
Not to be contrary but...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2016	#14
I think it went that way a long time ago...	NaturalHigh	Aug 2016	#15
You can tell its successful by ALL the activism taking root over there.	jmg257	Aug 2016	#16
69 or 70.	beevul	Aug 2016	#17
Those yutz's are simply following the lead of early Controllers........	pablo_marmol	Aug 2016	#19
Agreed.	Straw Man	Aug 2016	#20
That entire Maddow rant was so chock-full of BS that it would take many pages	pablo_marmol	Aug 2016	#21
wow	beergood	Sep 2016	#24
Yeah.......she truly is pathetic on the "gun control"/gun violence subject.	pablo_marmol	Sep 2016	#26
So you think NJ's ban on cop-killer hollowpoints is BS? No.	scscholar	Sep 2016	#27
The descriptor 'cop-killer hollowpoints' is PURE BS. YES	pablo_marmol	Sep 2016	#28
Yes, its BS. "cop-killer hollowpoints" is exactly the kind of absolute fabrication the OP refers to.	beevul	Sep 2016	#29
What's a cop killer hollowpoint?	Duckhunter935	Sep 2016	#30
do you even know what a hollowpoint is?	beergood	Sep 2016	#32
He/she is likely unaware that cops went to hollowpoints.........	pablo_marmol	Sep 2016	#33
But, but, they saw it on a bumper sticker!	DonP	Sep 2016	#45
"Cop-killer bullets" and "hollowpoints" are opposite concepts.	benEzra	Sep 2016	#53
If all of that is true, then...	scscholar	Sep 2016	#56
Because NJ passed a pointless law based on a non-existent panic.	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#57
Or pump your own gas	DonP	Sep 2016	#59
Actually, hollowpoints are legal in NJ. THe rest of your post stands, though.	benEzra	Sep 2016	#68
Because of people who were fed misinformation, which led them to support the proposed laws.	beevul	Sep 2016	#58
Same reason that "assault weapons" are demonized.	pablo_marmol	Sep 2016	#60
Hollowpoints aren't banned in NJ (or to my knowledge, anywhere else).	benEzra	Sep 2016	#67
Gun control is a joke.	Kang Colby	Sep 2016	#22
A bad joke...	beevul	Sep 2016	#23
"Just say no" to more gun control.	pablo_marmol	Sep 2016	#31
"There is even a complaint about the posting of articles discussing string theory in physics"	beergood	Sep 2016	#25
But you posted a perfectly legitimate scientific article.	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#34
my apologies	beergood	Sep 2016	#71
I referred to the reference to your posts as made by your detractor.	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#72
If I look at the sky through rose-colored glasses it appears purple.	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#35
It's a meaningless metaphor.	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#38
Because they do not.	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#40
According to the poster I cited in my OP	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#42
I prefer proven fact to accepted fact.	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#43
And I believe you, which is why its so disappointing to see you so determined to align with a group	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#48
A question. When you said:	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#52
I'm going to say some things but don't take my word for it. Poll my fellow RKBA advocates.	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#54
Second on the serious time for gun crimes and follow up on straw sales	DonP	Sep 2016	#55
I'll "third" these ideas.	pablo_marmol	Sep 2016	#62
I understand that these are your personal views that may be shared. On that:	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#66
I also prefer "allow"	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2016	#69
I actually said "family" not immediate family because	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#73
BGCs, carelessness, training, etc	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2016	#79
Make training a yearly requirement?	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#81
I'd be okay with an annual requirement	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2016	#84
It's difficult to demand people do anything with their private property.	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#70
The FOID card idea might work.	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#74
One of the considerations is:	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#75
Training and testing might be something to subcontract to selected gun ranges	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#76
Something tells me	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#77
quick question,	gejohnston	Sep 2016	#78
My first question would be:Does training ever hurt?	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#80
If its used to turn a right into a privilege, yes, it hurts. N/T	beevul	Sep 2016	#82
"Does training ever hurt?"	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2016	#83
I second that approval. eom	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#85
It doesn't hurt,	gejohnston	Sep 2016	#86
Would you support universal gun safety training...	beevul	Sep 2016	#87
If it had an "opt out" provision.	guillaumeb	Sep 2016	#88
That's a good idea	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2016	#89
I wouldn't object to that. N/T	beevul	Sep 2016	#90
Book by liberal criminologists James Wright & Peter Rossi.........	pablo_marmol	Sep 2016	#61
To that crowd, they stopped being "Liberal" Criminologists when they published the research	DonP	Sep 2016	#63
Good enough for Jimmy Carter to hire, thrown under the bus by The Controllers.	pablo_marmol	Sep 2016	#65
We've just been handed a prime example of how "gun control" relies on fabrication.	pablo_marmol	Sep 2016	#46
Seems contrary to "we want a discussion" doesn't it?	beevul	Sep 2016	#47
Kind of like their version of "compromise"?	DonP	Sep 2016	#49
Exactly right	Duckhunter935	Sep 2016	#51
And not just in "Bans-a-lot Land."	NaturalHigh	Sep 2016	#50
Regarding guns, I get the two confused.	Eleanors38	Sep 2016	#64

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