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gejohnston

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Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:58 PM
Dec 2016
If that is a damning indictment, then aren't we all here at DU guilty as well?
No. I believe in basing policies on facts and evidence, not ideology.

All I know is, I go to the website Mass Shooting Tracker, click the links, and get local news stories that talk about people with gunshot wounds. I guess I could go click more of them and hope to find one about BB guns, but so far zilch.
Maybe he scrubbed after being discovered and called out.

I agree about cities, they have way worse problems than, for instance, my small town. However, those problems are certainly made worse by guns. If those gangs only had knives, it is likely that many victims/rival gang members could at least attempt to flee.
Yes, but how are you going to take those guns from gangs? I guess we could save 40K lives by banning heroin, oh wait. Abortion is completely banned in South Korea, but it isn't hard to find an abortion clinic. If strict gun control laws and prohibition in places like South Africa, Mexico, Brazil, or Venezuela doesn't work there, why do you think it would work here? Speaking of knives. There was a time when street gangs had "rumbles", which were mutual combat in a predetermined place and time, usually in parks away from citizens. If anyone had a gun, it was a "zip gun". This was also before the Gun Control Act when all you needed was a Sears catalog and a money order for the right amount. Back then, they fought over territory and being "king bad ass". Going face to face with knives and tire chains makes you "king bad ass", remote control does not. What changed? The drug business, and the profits it produces. They have the money for guns to protect their profits and market share from other gangs.

The fact that violence is part of human nature doesn't mean guns don't enhance the capacity for violence. Thus it makes no real sense to compare our gun stats with knife stats elsewhere.
It isn't human nature, it is culture. As for knife vs gun, dead is dead unless it is about culture war and not the real issue.
Really, most of the gun control movement is about culture, not violence.
They're not known for thinking ahead even one step...nt HAB911 Dec 2016 #1
Submitted for reference HAB911 Dec 2016 #2
Deserves, no, demands an OP of it's own. nt flamin lib Dec 2016 #4
Fake study. Kang Colby Dec 2016 #20
Not known for thinking at all. flamin lib Dec 2016 #10
I suggest that this is less of a... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #3
All throughout President Obama's term sarisataka Dec 2016 #5
Huh? 1965Comet Dec 2016 #6
I misunderstood your sarisataka Dec 2016 #7
No worries, we are on the same side here. 1965Comet Dec 2016 #8
your website isn't a valid source gejohnston Dec 2016 #9
My source 1965Comet Dec 2016 #11
the FBI excludes gang related gejohnston Dec 2016 #13
I don't understand why we need to differentiate... 1965Comet Dec 2016 #14
because gejohnston Dec 2016 #17
more 1965Comet Dec 2016 #25
It is my belief that rights are innate in humans. They cannot be "taken away". discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #27
Ok 1965Comet Dec 2016 #28
re: "...the right to self-defense has nothing to do specifically with hand guns..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #29
One could say the same thing about the gun in the hand of the criminal. 1965Comet Dec 2016 #34
re: "...we already do not allow certain weapon systems...the right is not absolute." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #38
just a few things gejohnston Dec 2016 #32
Further looking into things 1965Comet Dec 2016 #12
their definition includes gejohnston Dec 2016 #15
more 1965Comet Dec 2016 #16
even more gejohnston Dec 2016 #19
MORE more 1965Comet Dec 2016 #21
"... if we were to just ban handguns..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #23
That is all nice, 1965Comet Dec 2016 #24
Name anything... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #26
I agree that pistols are excellent for self defense 1965Comet Dec 2016 #30
Point by point discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #37
Since the #1 priority of the gun control lobby is outlawing the most popular *rifles*, benEzra Jan 2017 #43
no. gejohnston Dec 2016 #31
mass shooting tracker is an admitted propagandist pushing an ideology. 1965Comet Dec 2016 #33
he inflates the numbers gejohnston Dec 2016 #35
The definition 1965Comet Dec 2016 #36
"Confirmed: Heat-seeking Missile Flies up Gun-controllers' Own Arse." Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #18
Uh, this was a right-wing attempt to smear the President, 1965Comet Dec 2016 #22
Oh, I am aware of the RW posting; they don't miss many opportunities, Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #39
I haven't seen this... 1965Comet Dec 2016 #40
I don't really care whether anyone wants to use the new Mass Shooting measure... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #41
" writing in Yahoo, Nov. 10, 1915." oneshooter Dec 2016 #42
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