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Response to gejohnston (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:47 AM

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1.) Are you suggesting gun violence by gang members is not a "real" issue? I am not scapegoating anyone, I do not blame others for gang members fighting among themselves. I am interested in ways to mitigate the effects of that violence, and attempting to keep the gangs from getting handguns is one way to try to do that. It doesn't matter that gang members get their guns illegally (for the most part). They tend to steal the guns from legal owners, so a ban on such guns that included legal owners would still impact the pool of guns available to gang members.

2.) Which statistic? Why do you mention "assault weapons"? I imagine we agree that it is a "made-up" category of weapons. Either way, I am talking about handguns, which seem to be the weapon of choice for gangs.

3.) "Would it matter if they got machine guns from the black market like the attacks in Europe? Would it matters if they used homemade flamethrowers?"

But this just illustrates my point about gun bans. You mention several high-profile incidents, but these just show how rare gun violence is over there. I agree that terrorists could import guns and carry out attacks, but still those attacks are a drop in the bucket of gun violence here in the US (just as rifle homicides are a drop in the bucket compared to handguns). Yes, if gang members cannot get handguns perhaps they would make homemade flamethrowers. However, if they walk around with said flamethrowers on the street, it is a good bet they would be noticed.

As to illiberalism: I generally agree that more rights are better than fewer rights. And indeed, banning some or all guns would be taking away a right.

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