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Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

13. no there isn't

Reply to louis-t (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:00 PM

Mar 2017

there has to be physical evidence to back it up. If the prosecution pokes a hole in any of the five elements, the defendant loses.
http://lawofselfdefense.com/the-five-principles-of-the-law-of-self-defense-in-a-nutshell/

Are you opposed to SYG in favor of DTR, or simply don't believe people should have the right to defend themselves from violent attackers?
Honest question because it really sounds like the latter.

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Did Florida's stand your ground law reduce violent crime? (PolitiFact) [View all] HAB911 Mar 2017 OP

States that don't have stand your ground louis-t Mar 2017 #1

"Just another excuse to murder people." Who has been murdered, and when? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #2

Pretty hard to determine when one of the victims/perps louis-t Mar 2017 #3

Well then, do you have at least one example of a shooting you found questionable? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #4

Zimmerman considered it but his attorneys talked him out of it. louis-t Mar 2017 #5

no there isn't gejohnston Mar 2017 #13

It is not an honest question. louis-t Mar 2017 #16

self defense is not a crime gejohnston Mar 2017 #18

You people are delusional. louis-t Mar 2017 #19

not at all gejohnston Mar 2017 #20

There's a lot of material on this. louis-t Mar 2017 #6

SYG simply means no duty to retreat gejohnston Mar 2017 #12

And by the way, a lot of these cases never go to trial. louis-t Mar 2017 #7

"(Y)ou just have to look for it." No, I don't- as it was *your* claim to prove, not mine. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #8

Uh, "they're going to stop in 5 feet and jump out with a gun" louis-t Mar 2017 #9

No, that was held to be self-defense, which applied *before* SYG in Louisiana friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #11

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #10

Stand your ground wasn't intended to reduce violent crime. pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #14

key syg findings wrt firearms jimmy the one Mar 2017 #15

Let's distinguish between "increases in homicide by firearm" louis-t Mar 2017 #17

Homicide doesn't necessarily indicate crime. There are many homicides that are not criminal. Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #21

Homicide: discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #22