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Gun Control & RKBA

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sharedvalues

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Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:27 AM Feb 2018

Kids and Guns: Shootings now the 3rd-leading cause of death for US Children [View all]

I think it's important to talk about this, because a common pro-gun talking point is to deny that guns cause deaths, and to deny that guns cause kids' deaths. Well, we have lots of kids getting shot in the US. Way below other countries that have better gun control.


http://www.newsweek.com/guns-kids-third-leading-cause-death-627209

Few stories are more heartbreaking than those involving children who are injured or killed by gunshots. It isn't hard to find them: In June alone, a 6-year-old accidentally shot and killed a 4-year-old in South Carolina, a father accidentally shot and killed his 9-year-old daughter in Indiana and an 8-year-old Mississippi boy was accidentally shot in the chest. His grandparents drove him to the hospital, but he died 45 minutes later. Sadly, the list of child gun deaths goes on.

Related: Republican praises guns just moments after Virginia shooting

Though we constantly see examples in the news, child gun injuries and deaths may be even more prevalent in the United States than we realized. A study published Monday in the journal Pediatrics showed that an average of 5,790 children in the United States receive emergency room treatment for gun-related injuries each year, and around 21 percent of those injuries are unintentional. The study also found that an average of 1,297 children die annually from gun-related injuries, making guns the third-leading cause of death for children in America (behind illnesses and unintentional injuries like drownings or car crashes). The number is based on data taken from 2012–2014 for children up to the age of 17.



Aha. This is why the GOP and NRA has banned the CDC and government from collecting data on gun violence (because they know what the data will show). That was reversed under Obama, and now the data is showing that guns get people killed - in this case, get kids killed.


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"We need more guns to fix this problem!" - NRA Beartracks Feb 2018 #1
If those kids were armed they'd stop the other kid criminals accidentally shooting them! sharedvalues Feb 2018 #2
I inquire about access to firearms... 3catwoman3 Feb 2018 #3
Our pediatrician told us to ask about guns too. America is insane on guns. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #4
Yes, there are kids being killed and injured by the misuse of guns. ManiacJoe Feb 2018 #5
The problem of too many guns that are not single shot rifles sharedvalues Feb 2018 #6
So, if a kid gets hold of a single shot rifle, and kills their self with it, yagotme Feb 2018 #7
One step at a time, friend. One. Step. At. A. Time. AzureCrest Feb 2018 #8
No. Ban handguns and semi-autos. Like Canada effectively does. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #9
But Canada does not do that. ManiacJoe Feb 2018 #11
As we can see, factual accuracy is not a priority in gun control advocacy friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #13
Handguns severally restricted to police, armed guards and remote wildlife areas. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #27
So if I own guns, I'm complicit in gun deaths. yagotme Feb 2018 #18
Yup. Handgun and semi auto owners are complicit. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #19
Are drug users likewise complicit in cartel violence? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #22
You should go with: guns kill Americans sharedvalues Feb 2018 #24
So, what percentage of my purchase amount goes to the NRA??? yagotme Feb 2018 #44
What percent of your purchase is profit for gun manufacturers? sharedvalues Feb 2018 #50
Which one? yagotme Feb 2018 #53
Yes your money goes to gun companies who give it to the NRA. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #57
Well, if there was such a problem.... ManiacJoe Feb 2018 #10
Am interesting in saving American lives. By banning handguns. Kids lives. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #20
Pretty sure the numbers would not support your plan. ManiacJoe Feb 2018 #21
Fewer guns, fewer deaths sharedvalues Feb 2018 #23
Nor can you stop him by allowing single shot firearms n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #25
True, but there is value in respecting real hunters. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #48
Maybe I'm wrong but you say... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #52
Hunters can own single shot rifles. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #58
No thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #70
You'd rather have dead kids than give up your killing weapons? Seems un-neighborly sharedvalues Feb 2018 #72
"un-neighborly"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue#Folksy_posturing friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #74
Those are your words not mine discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #78
The problem is that fewer guns does not lead to fewer deaths. ManiacJoe Feb 2018 #28
let's see the numbers that prove "fewer guns does not lead to fewer deaths" CreekDog Feb 2018 #38
Well, that is one way to increase your post count. ManiacJoe Feb 2018 #43
this is how you increase your post count: CreekDog Feb 2018 #60
We can prove the opposite krispos42 Feb 2018 #62
you're not answering the question CreekDog Feb 2018 #64
Where would I get data on that? krispos42 Feb 2018 #71
May or may not? Then ban them. Better than the current situation. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #49
this guy didn't destroy his weapon, gejohnston Feb 2018 #67
He did cut the receiver in half later, apparently-but only after people pointed out what you said... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #75
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue#Gross_oversimplification friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #77
"Fewer horses, fewer horse thieves." yagotme Feb 2018 #45
(behind illnesses and unintentional injuries like drownings or car crashes). EX500rider Feb 2018 #12
Why start the OP off with a lie? The CDC and government aren't banned from collecting data linuxman Feb 2018 #14
I think you've got the wrong amendment. Straw Man Feb 2018 #15
Yep. That's it. linuxman Feb 2018 #16
FWIW I think DU doesn't respond correctly to links with parentheses. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #17
I debunk your falsehood in this previous post. GOP and NRA are AFRAID of gun data. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #29
Actually you didn't discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #30
You didn't read the report excerpt I quoted then. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #31
The fact is as I reported in the quote from the actual law discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #32
I am in a purple area. This issue will win for Dems sharedvalues Feb 2018 #33
But one other point sharedvalues Feb 2018 #34
But, what they are pushing for now is another "AWB". yagotme Feb 2018 #46
Simple: ban assault weapons. If you think it's too hard, ban all semiautomatics. A ban with teeth. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #47
Not so simple; what's an "assault weapon"? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #54
Hey an NRA talking point! Whatabout a barrel stock magazine clip silencer sight stock bolt lever... sharedvalues Feb 2018 #59
It's actually a very valid question krispos42 Feb 2018 #61
America is a country of momentous innovation discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #79
Ritually chanting a slogan like "NRA talking point(s)", or "fake news" *isn't* a counterargument friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #68
No thanks, unprecedented, not possible discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2018 #69
If you don't know, then ban them all. All semi autos sharedvalues Feb 2018 #73
"(Gun) fetishists"? Once again, Wikipedia has your number: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #76
Do you really realize what you're saying when you say yagotme Feb 2018 #55
Yes. Semiautos: banned. Single-shot hunting rifles: allowed. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #56
So, me saying that some people are evil is an NRA talking point. yagotme Feb 2018 #63
Using the phrase "talking point" reduces a complex discussion to the level of secular Bible-quoting. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #66
"NRA talking points" is the functional equivalent of "fake news": a thought-terminating cliche... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #65
The loons on the right will just say Yeah, & the leading cause is abortion. nt MadDAsHell Feb 2018 #26
"The number is based on data taken from 20122014 for children up to the age of 17" EX500rider Feb 2018 #35
Americans in cities know: kids get caught in crossfire sharedvalues Feb 2018 #36
Calling 17yo's "children" is just dishonest BS to drive up the number. EX500rider Feb 2018 #37
Kids get killed by guns. Are you denying that? sharedvalues Feb 2018 #39
Yes they do which doesn't change calling 17yo's children is obvious BS. EX500rider Feb 2018 #40
Ok cool. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #41
OMG, somebody on DU was reasonable!! thanks! lol EX500rider Feb 2018 #42
Federal funds are not allowed to be used for gun violence research JDC Feb 2018 #51
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