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Response to digonswine (Reply #29)

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 10:13 AM

33. Like many Democrats, you are logical and respectful

Conversations like this lead to folks thinking, maybe brainstorming, about combinations of things that work or help.

Don't worry about the delay. During the week my time here is rather limited as well.

Everyone gains emotional security by following their own assessment of their needs and allocating their resources as they see fit. I define freedom as people following their own judgement in making their own lives satisfying and using their time, earnings and abilities as they see fit. If you have a 200 acre ranch outside a city and want to build your own shooting range, go for it. Firing guns in your downtown condo without some life threatening event is a no-no.

Laws and consequences absolutely lead to control but only among those who are just to begin with and exercise self-control. IMHO, laws serve as tools and criteria for the courts and prosecutors to use in the pursuit of justice. The evil among us will ignore laws and find ways to do what they want. That's life. Empowering more people to feel in control of their own areas of influence and emotionally congruent with the needs of their neighbors will lead to people working together rather viewing with suspicion the motives of their neighbors. If law enforcement offered free NICS BGCs to those selling guns, folks would be on board with doing something positive for the community. If law enforcement offered voluntary registration for those who want it, that may be a step in the right direction. Registration for licensed carriers seems like a good idea.

Bringing the non-fringe into the discussion would be a good thing. I don't see Ted N and Nancy P ever sitting down to reach a consensus but the reasonable folks need to express themselves and own the direction of any laws proposed. This is fundamentally the area that this quote applies: "But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."

As a hunter you have my respect. I'm fine, so to speak, hiring folks to kill for me. Lawyers also have my respect, I'll hire one when I need one. I've never hunted. I don't have a deep freezer....
I think 99% of hunters are extremely careful and safety conscious. Maybe a few will drive through the brush on ATVs shooting at anything that moves.

Three to five rounds seems fine to me for hunting for deer hunting. For hunting wild hogs that travel in packs maybe not but I'm not a hunter.

If you carry in public, follow the state law. If that's CC only and 10 round mags, follow the law. I don't like OC but I guess you live in Tucson and half the town is OC then fine. I won't be.

That third point, yeah it should be but it isn't. Some folks (folks with the public's attention) are like a dog with a bone for an AWB. I remember crazy things from some folks. The group that thought Barrett rifles would be shooting down 737s is definitely in the fringe you mentioned.

There has been AFAIK, about 4 cases where high rate of fire guns were used in a crime. I'm fine adding bump stocks to the NFA registry. I also would prefer the registry to be opened.

Have a great weekend.

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