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Gun Control & RKBA

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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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Fri May 17, 2019, 05:59 PM May 2019

Ghost Guns Are Everywhere in California [View all]

https://www.thetrace.org/2019/05/ghost-gun-california-crime/

Feds say nearly a third of firearms recovered in the state are homemade, unserialized, and untraceable.
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A ghost gun is a firearm manufactured outside of the traditional supply chain. It can be printed on a 3-D printer, or assembled with parts sold by the dozens of companies that create nearly completed firearms — known as “80 percent receivers,” which require no background check to sell.
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The majority of America’s guns begin their life with a stream of paperwork mandated by the federal government. These weapons, each with a unique serial number, enter the civilian market through licensed firearms dealers, which require background checks. Over time, every additional sale is recorded, providing a log of a gun’s life that can be a little tricky to piece together, but an absolutely critical tool to criminal investigations.

A ghost gun subverts this system entirely — because it doesn’t automatically get stamped with a serial number, isn’t sold by a federally licensed dealer, and doesn’t generate paperwork.
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Ghost Guns Are Everywhere in California [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 OP
Nice! Gun fetishists putting our kids at risk. sharedvalues May 2019 #1
Wrong on multiple levels. Straw Man May 2019 #2
Some folks manufacture guns discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author EX500rider May 2019 #4
Pious fraud is part and parcel of gun control advocacy. That was merely the latest example. friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #5
Wow, that's a long thread! MarvinGardens May 2019 #6
NRA is a terrorist organization sharedvalues May 2019 #7
None of which substantiate your original claim. We've seen this sort of thing before: friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #8
I know I'm old when gejohnston May 2019 #9
nra indirectly condones death by guns jimmy the one May 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Alea May 2019 #11
If the Parkland asshole gejohnston May 2019 #12
Ah, "indirectly" ... Straw Man May 2019 #14
Some truly believe that mere repetition of a claim is a sign of veracity... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #17
Would you prefer the term "willingley facilitates"? guillaumeb May 2019 #28
Not at all. Straw Man May 2019 #48
The modern NRA is a front organization for the weapons industry. guillaumeb May 2019 #58
Correction. Straw Man May 2019 #59
We disagree. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #63
Yes, we do. Straw Man May 2019 #64
And we're back discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #65
flapdoodle in the straw jimmy the one May 2019 #70
Let me make it clearer for you. Straw Man May 2019 #73
You didn't address: NRA is a terrorist organization sharedvalues May 2019 #13
Not that I disagree- but mere repetition of a claim is no indicator of truth friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #16
The NRA is a terrorist organization, though. sharedvalues May 2019 #18
"You didn't address my point" Said 'point' is merely a repeated claim, made with much handwaving... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #20
The NRA gets our kids killed. Therefore it enables terrorism. sharedvalues May 2019 #22
Any solution in mind ? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #23
Solution to NRA getting kids killed: disband the NRA sharedvalues May 2019 #24
You're aware that the lobbying org is the ILA right? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #25
You're aware how much gun and ammo CEOs funnel to the NRA right? sharedvalues May 2019 #43
I wasn't aware that CEOs funnel any guns or ammo to the NRA. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #51
"Disband the NRA" by mindlessly parroting your claims to everyone we know? friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #32
You have to admit without the NRA, the only guns left would be muskets & Colt SAAs discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #33
You seem to misunderstand how politics works. sharedvalues May 2019 #42
Gay marriage was achieved by action, not mindless repetition of slogans... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #62
Willful misunderstanding. sharedvalues May 2019 #66
Some of us understand empty sloganeering quite well... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #74
Denial. Straw Man May 2019 #47
I see no advocacy of the killing of school children ... Straw Man May 2019 #15
God the bull shit never ends does it. Bad parenting? Combined with a fucking GUN! wasupaloopa May 2019 #30
Yes -- bad parenting. Straw Man May 2019 #45
less gun ownership rates the reason for less shootings jimmy the one May 2019 #71
Clinton-era declines are a red herring. Straw Man May 2019 #72
red herring in the straw jimmy the one Jun 2019 #90
Feh. Chronic logorrhea in the service of bluster friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #91
Relevance. Straw Man Jun 2019 #92
strawker forgets gun control & decline in gun ownership rates jimmy the one Jun 2019 #93
Implication. Straw Man Jun 2019 #94
egg face foot mouth syndrome jimmy the one Jul 2019 #96
It took you a while ... Straw Man Jul 2019 #97
LA Times article was pro gun control jimmy the one Jul 2019 #98
NSS. Straw Man Jul 2019 #99
not speculation jimmy the one Jul 2019 #100
Yes, speculation. Straw Man Jul 2019 #101
What does the NRA do to prevent school shootings? Actually they work toward more wasupaloopa May 2019 #29
What does Bloomberg do? gejohnston May 2019 #40
Expecting the NRA ... Straw Man May 2019 #49
No no no no the tool is made for killing and is used to kill children in school. That you wasupaloopa May 2019 #52
Don't presume ... Straw Man May 2019 #61
........... gejohnston May 2019 #19
Sometimes the best one can hope for... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #21
Guns make us safer! PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #26
The fact that we have the second amendment that has been interpreted wasupaloopa May 2019 #31
re: "...the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #34
"I care about the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness." MarvinGardens May 2019 #36
Right. When gun advocates say out loud (and they do) that PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #38
implicitly to murder me or anyone else, is more important than my right to life gejohnston May 2019 #41
Really? I am affected by non existant gun laws if I PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #44
Just some general discussion discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #55
actually, there are thousands of gun laws in the US gejohnston May 2019 #57
BTW, about the lands down under discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #88
Odd ... Straw Man May 2019 #46
Wasn't it Joe the Plumber PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #53
Joe the Plumber? Please. Straw Man May 2019 #60
Just a few fine points here discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #95
The 2nd Amendment only applies to MILITIAS. And Scalia got bought by gun companies sharedvalues May 2019 #77
Have a link: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #82
That's just false. Here's some truth for you. sharedvalues May 2019 #83
Enjoy the flat earth while you can n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #84
I'm sorry you choose to persist in bad-faith arguments sharedvalues May 2019 #85
re: bad-faith discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #86
An obvious (and clumsy) propagandist lecturing others about 'bad faith'? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #89
Guns get our kids killed sharedvalues May 2019 #75
Guns are designed to kill. guillaumeb May 2019 #27
I might accept that sniper rifles are designed to kill but guns in general? Not so much other guns. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #35
Guns are designed to kill. guillaumeb May 2019 #37
If guns in general aren't designed to kill, then what are they designed for? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #39
This gun ... Straw Man May 2019 #50
I bet if you get in front of a gun designed PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #54
Just to make a point: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #56
Once again, with rare exceptions guns are designed to kill living things. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #67
A difference without a distinction discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #68
Further discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #69
You completely ignore self defense in all your replies Alea May 2019 #78
re: "If someone you love and care about... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #87
Evidence that the NRA is a terrorist organization. sharedvalues May 2019 #76
Authoritarians and moral panic-mongers love the "Won't somebody think of the children?" schtick friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #79
You're not the first demagogue to sanctimoniously proclaim that you're trying to 'save' children... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #80
Here's a link: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #81
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