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guillaumeb

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3. The fact that Scalia redacted 1/2 of the 2nd Amendment to support his "originalist" view
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:10 PM
May 2019

tells you all you need to know.

Thanks for posting this mainstreetonce May 2019 #1
... flamin lib May 2019 #2
The fact that Scalia redacted 1/2 of the 2nd Amendment to support his "originalist" view guillaumeb May 2019 #3
Scalia specifically said that the 2A allows strict gun control hack89 Jun 2019 #7
True, but he did need to dismiss 1/2 of the Amendment to support his claimed originalist argument. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #16
President Obama, HRC and Bernie Sanders have all said the 2A protects an individual right hack89 Jun 2019 #17
It was, for the Founders. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #19
Except they never wrote any laws to that effect hack89 Jun 2019 #20
The Founders were concerned with Federal issues. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #21
according to Barron v Baltimore, gejohnston Jun 2019 #22
But those same founders went back to their states to write state constitutions hack89 Jun 2019 #23
The Consistution does make a provision for a standing army gladium et scutum Jun 2019 #29
Agreed. Snackshack May 2019 #4
From a centrist establishment type, formerly someone evenkeeled. sharedvalues May 2019 #5
"(Y)ou will not smear them or Waldman." My my, aren't *we* full of ourselves! friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #6
You did smear Waldman. You know your argument is flawed. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #10
Ahem. You don't actually *get* to shape others' replies to you. Also... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #27
No, I do get to point out lies. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #31
Wait- if you buy guns or ammo you help get kids killed. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #32
"Pastor Robert Jeffress Says Disney Supports 'Murdering Children'... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #36
Deflection. Own your responsibility. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #37
Feh. Eric Hoffer explained people like you years ago: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #42
"If the gun restrictionists quit aping the fetus fetishists, the meme will go away." friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #43
Thanks for that discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #44
The Supreme Court agrees with Burger hack89 Jun 2019 #8
The Heller decision is a farce that puts kids at risk sharedvalues Jun 2019 #9
Heller specifically says the 2A allows strict gun control. hack89 Jun 2019 #13
You just don't understand *progressive* guilt by association friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #34
Lots of obvious propaganda techniques, little to no actual evidence friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #28
That's a dead kid. Sorry you don't like actual evidence. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #30
Blatant propaganda and cheap appeals to pity don't move me, and never have friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #33
Another Lovejoy. Straw Man Jun 2019 #35
Of rights and straw men. MarvinGardens Jun 2019 #11
"...a bit of a straw man." But I would rec this were it an OP discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #14
Thanks! MarvinGardens Jun 2019 #15
1939 Miller decision makes your claims invalid jimmy the one Jun 2019 #46
Sounds like the gestation slavers claiming that Roe v Wade ought to be overturned friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #48
militia blasts from the past jimmy the one Jun 2019 #51
I'm neither impressed nor intimidated by mere bluster and chronic logorrhea friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #53
The modern N.C. constitution added the qualifier MarvinGardens Jun 2019 #66
1939 miller explained further jimmy the one Jun 2019 #76
You are laser focused on Miller and ignoring my other arguments in this thread. MarvinGardens Jun 2019 #77
It seems Con Law lectures at Internet Search Engine University focus on Miller... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #78
Let's see here... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #79
Well, when you only have one decision, rendered because the defendant died, and the defense didn't AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #81
If I understand you, sarisataka Jun 2019 #12
re: "...better to submit...than to defend one's self" discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #24
With complete unawareness of the irony, sarisataka Jun 2019 #26
Perhaps if a whole city calls to request a police escort... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #39
Burger's rant gejohnston Jun 2019 #18
If you buy guns and ammo you help get American kids killed. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #40
it wasn't gejohnston Jun 2019 #41
What consensus legal opinion? hack89 Jun 2019 #45
Once again, you've demonstrated that pious fraud is part and parcel of gun control advocacy friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #49
Miller? The case where the defense never made an argument? hack89 Jun 2019 #55
"(Miller) did not say that militia service is required for gun ownership." True... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #56
Pardon me for interjecting my rather focused discussion on Miller discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #58
You weren't to notice those inconvenient details amidst all the bluster and handwaving friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #60
See reply below for legal opinion sharedvalues Jun 2019 #65
re: "Republicans love guns because gun identity politics gets people... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #25
Wrong. I just checked. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #38
1939 supreme court Miller decision re 2ndA jimmy the one Jun 2019 #47
Miller is no more valid today than Minersville School District v. Gobitis friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #50
And if it was, we'd all have the right to own an Army-issue (and fully automatic) M4... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #59
"a unorganized militia is NOT well regulated. It could not possibly be what madison intended" friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #61
IOW: "No *true* militia is unorganized" friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #63
Thank you - very good! sharedvalues Jun 2019 #80
Of course, because it's wrong in the same way your argument is wrong. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #82
I'm sorry you can't recognize truth when you see it. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #83
When I buy ammo, I give 11% to nature conservancy. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #86
You're having a discussion with someone who rewrote the dictionary discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #85
Evangelists of all stripes want believers, not thinkers. Thinkers tend to ask pesky questions... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #87
When your "church" says the world is flat... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #88
2A - Well regulated militia, not well armed minority bigbrother05 Jun 2019 #52
What are you doing to arm the majority? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #54
There are so many appropriate quotes from the movie Lord of War discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #84
Thanks. Yes. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #64
I hope to make this the subject of an OP, soon. MarvinGardens Jun 2019 #67
Only in America is the problem MythosMaster Jun 2019 #57
Welcome to the site and the group. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #62
"The Founders never intended to create unregulated guns" yagotme Jun 2019 #68
? sharedvalues Jun 2019 #69
The way to "register" guns is to make a list, yagotme Jun 2019 #70
How does this work when semiautomatics are banned? sharedvalues Jun 2019 #71
It's 2 simple steps discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #72
Good question. yagotme Jun 2019 #73
Guess its good they are regulated then. jmg257 Jun 2019 #74
It was never meant to be just militia. gejohnston Jun 2019 #75
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