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Response to Eko (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 07:28 AM

4. Immense apologies

First, in #4 I was specifically discussing rifles. I know there are revolver rifles out there but they were not my topic. Sorry about that.

What is a self defense firearm?
That would be a firearm used in self-defense. And let's be specific here, I'm excluding war zone cases of an infantryman defending himself with a BAR.

What makes the Ruger mini 14 a ranch rifle?
You should asking the folks at Ruger that question. You seem to be getting more general about what qualifies as an AR or assault weapon which is part of the problem I was addressing.

SO what about the M60, if they made it semi auto would it then be ok to have? Its just a 7.62.
Aside from there being a bit of variety of 7.62, I'm not seeing the point of the question. Let me be as complete as possible here: I have no problem with civilian possession of rifles in calibers up to .50 which operate in semi-auto. The M60 uses 7.62x51 and that round would be just as deadly fired from any semi-auto rifle. I don't know if the belted ammo will feed correctly in semi-auto.

Why try to compare a full auto to a revolver...
You brought up revolvers in a thread on rifles because I stated my opinion on rate of fire. I mentioned the M16 rate of fire as an example of an assault rifle. IMNSHO rifles firing less than 100 rounds per minute are fine for civilians. Rifles that fire 500 or more rounds per minute can be called machine guns and we have laws already that address machine guns.

You asked, "What makes the Ruger mini 14 a ranch rifle? How is it different than a AR15?"

IMO it isn't very different. I read regular demands from restrictionists to ban the AR but they don't address rifles with traditional wood stocks like the Ruger. In 2016 AG Maura Healey expanded her state's AWB to include what she called copycat weapons. The time and money spent on that in a state where it had been over year since the last murder using any type of rifle at all is a monument to futility. There's a true waste.

In 2017 murders by handguns is 7,032. Rifle murders stand at 403. In 1986 exactly 1 state had unrestricted concealed carry. There are now 16 states with unrestricted concealed carry. All that time one of the favorite anti-gun topics I've found has been the campaign against semi-auto AR and AK styled rifles. IMO AWBs don't do much in the real world other than raise money for politicians on both sides. They do seem to work well at losing votes for state and local Dems.

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