like I said before, (Reply #7) - Democratic Underground

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Sun Aug 25, 2019, 10:49 PM

gejohnston (17,496 posts)

7. like I said before,

https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-06-27/map-here-are-countries-worlds-highest-murder-rates

Check out the highest murder rates and their laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_Jamaica

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95 replies	Author	Time	Post
Gun-control mistakes [View all]	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2019	OP
I disagree with mistake #4.	Eko	Aug 2019	#1
sorry you disagree	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2019	#2
Of course a single action revolver can fire faster than a semi auto AR.	Eko	Aug 2019	#3
Immense apologies	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2019	#4
If I asked you for specifics, do you think you could provide them?	krispos42	Aug 2019	#5
Here are some specifics for you.	Eko	Aug 2019	#6
like I said before,	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#7
See this.	Eko	Aug 2019	#8
So?	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#9
Can you point out where it says that?	Eko	Aug 2019	#10
right here.	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#11
Still dont see "special permit"	Eko	Aug 2019	#12
distiction without a difference	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#13
No, I go by details.	Eko	Aug 2019	#14
There is no correlation,	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#15
Inequality can be a major factor without a doubt,	Eko	Aug 2019	#16
why?	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#17
Because you are making the claim.	Eko	Aug 2019	#18
I provided evidence for income inequality,	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#20
I showed evidence	Eko	Aug 2019	#22
Yet you ignored the highest that also have	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#24
So do the top 50 to disprove me.	Eko	Aug 2019	#26
nothing can disproven,	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#31
Ok then, show enough data points to make mine invalid.	Eko	Aug 2019	#33
you haven't shown yours to be valid.	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#36
Show the data.	Eko	Aug 2019	#27
you didn't do shit	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#29
It acutally took me about an hour to do this.	Eko	Aug 2019	#32
an hour to do a few links,	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#34
Actually, there are two links I used	Eko	Aug 2019	#35
OK,	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#37
So fucking do it!	Eko	Aug 2019	#38
I did.	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#41
So you admit you are just trolling.	Eko	Aug 2019	#39
no you are.	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#40
I mean I have already done 2 out of the 3 data points for you.	Eko	Aug 2019	#19
why should I?	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#23
Feel free to make your case with data points.	Eko	Aug 2019	#25
because you haven't provided a	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#28
So just make a claim without backing it up.	Eko	Aug 2019	#30
You can start with this.	Eko	Aug 2019	#21
I was referring to defining "assault weapons"	krispos42	Sep 2019	#48
I think the inventor of the AR 15 knew one when he saw one.	Eko	Sep 2019	#50
I see a .223 rifle.	krispos42	Sep 2019	#59
Any of those are assault weapon features.	Eko	Sep 2019	#61
Exactly my point.	krispos42	Sep 2019	#63
LOL.	Eko	Sep 2019	#65
Well, one is an armed truck, one isn't.	krispos42	Sep 2019	#67
But your paint analogy was a good one.	Eko	Sep 2019	#69
Depends on use, I guess.	krispos42	Sep 2019	#72
So, what you are saying is	Eko	Sep 2019	#75
I assumed a .223 Model 700 for equivalency	krispos42	Sep 2019	#79
Where did I imply this?	Eko	Sep 2019	#76
This is interesting also.	Eko	Sep 2019	#51
And we figured it out once before so we could do it again.	Eko	Sep 2019	#52
And it didn't do a damn thing to control either mass shootings or regular murders	krispos42	Sep 2019	#53
People disagree with your opinion.	Eko	Sep 2019	#54
Okay, here's the promised data	krispos42	Sep 2019	#57
In your second graph	Eko	Sep 2019	#58
And everything else as well.	krispos42	Sep 2019	#60
What percentage of mass murders used handgans and non firearm weapons vs semi auto rifles?	Eko	Sep 2019	#62
A decent amount have	krispos42	Sep 2019	#66
All definitions are arbitrary and can be changed.	Eko	Sep 2019	#77
And that is not true per your graphs.	Eko	Sep 2019	#64
You're right. I stand corrected	krispos42	Sep 2019	#70
Gun sales decreased when it was a law then increased when it was ended.	Eko	Sep 2019	#71
That's not quite a logical conclusion, though.	krispos42	Sep 2019	#73
Correlation does not mean causation.	Eko	Sep 2019	#74
FYI, IL does not have AWB statewide. Yet. nt	yagotme	Sep 2019	#55
BATFE definition:	yagotme	Sep 2019	#56
So what do you recommend to stop the massive killing spree?	lark	Aug 2019	#42
Thoughts and some logical reasoning followed with action for sure	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2019	#43
I truly like those plans but they wouldn't stop the mass murderers.	lark	Aug 2019	#44
My thoughts are practical and immediate	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2019	#45
BTW in the other countries direction	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2019	#46
for mass murders,	gejohnston	Aug 2019	#47
So how would that have stopper the Las Vegas shooter?	Eko	Sep 2019	#68
So what would have stopped Jeffrey Dahmer?	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2019	#78
Ah there it is.	Eko	Sep 2019	#80
Sorry, I inferred from that you thought an AWB would have stopped the Vegas shooting	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2019	#81
What does Jeffrey Dahmer and Josef Mengele have to do with the AWB?	Eko	Sep 2019	#82
BTW, I never said nor do I believe...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2019	#83
Then why bring up Jeffrey Dahmer and Josef Mengele?	Eko	Sep 2019	#84
Please reread the OP	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2019	#85
Of course laws prevent crimes.	Eko	Sep 2019	#86
And this goes to further prove my point...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2019	#87
Nope,	Eko	Sep 2019	#88
Big fat hairy deal	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2019	#89
LOL, way too funny buddy.	Eko	Sep 2019	#90
Just accept what you apparently think and own it	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2019	#91
Just accept that you cant help but Strawman me.	Eko	Sep 2019	#93
Well, I don't own a gun	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2019	#94
I fear we will not be able to.	krispos42	Sep 2019	#49
Mistake #6	Alea	Sep 2019	#92
I'm sure if I search...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2019	#95

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