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Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:06 AM

17. This again?

 

It is easy to criticize peer review -- every group that has ever been up against the scientific consensus makes the same arguments. The intelligent design people do it. The global warming deniers do it. And the NRA crowd does it. But, despite the flaws, peer review is the best system currently available to distinguish legitimate science from quackery. And, 99 times out of 100, if you've got the consensus of peer reviewed studies on one side, and scientifically illiterate bloggers with a political agenda on the other, the scientists are going to be right.

And the criminology/medicine thing is just silly. Labeling of certain research areas "criminology" an not "medicine" is a very transparent attempt to distract from the fact that the bulk of the research -- both by criminologists and by epidemiologists -- doesn't go the way the NRA wants it to. The real question not whether "doctors should be doing criminology", but rather what set of techniques are most useful for investigating gun violence. And epidemiologists, who have extensive experience conducting various types of observational studies, examining statistical data, etc., without at doubt bring a lot of important tools to the table.

And this is why the people most concerned about public health researchers invading the turf of criminologists are not criminologists, but pro-gun advocates posting on gun blogs. These are people who do not understand any of the research well enough to mount any cogent criticism, but still want it to be "wrong" because it violates their political beliefs. Most mainstream criminologists have been receptive towards the infusion of new techniques and ideas from the public health community. In fact, there are many examples of successful collaborations between the public health and criminology communities, and there are interdisciplinary departments and graduate programs, so many scholars in the field now have graduate training in both criminology and public health.

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