Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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26. is a propaganda buzz word

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:45 PM

Jun 2012

newspeak.

The round in question could, in fact, penetrate a police vest. However, as Kopsch pointed out in a 1990 interview, "adding a teflon coating to the round added 20% penetration power on metal and glass. Critics kept complaining about teflon's ability to penetrate body armor... In fact, teflon cut down on the round's ability to cut through the nylon or kevlar of body armor."

It still does not change the fact that the National Firearms Act of 1934 banned non LE use of armor piercing rounds.

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Peer Review [View all] TPaine7 Jun 2012 OP

Cool, dueling Texans gejohnston Jun 2012 #1

No research is valid without data. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #2

why did they do that? gejohnston Jun 2012 #3

LOL! You need the rest of the story. Something else happened in the mid 90s... TPaine7 Jun 2012 #4

Does the NRA support funds safeinOhio Jun 2012 #5

actually, they don't support any "research" gejohnston Jun 2012 #7

I don't know, but that seems like the wrong question to me. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #8

Shut 'em down! bongbong Jun 2012 #6

See post 4 and attempt to reply with substance, assuming that's not too much trouble. n/t TPaine7 Jun 2012 #9

shut down ALL Lobbyists using that same principle. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #10

Yup, that's how the NRA rolls. DanTex Jun 2012 #16

Another straw man? Progressive dog Jun 2012 #11

No thanks, you can stop with the first one. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #12

teflon coated-intended to penetrate kevlar vests-ban opposed by NRA Progressive dog Jun 2012 #21

... TPaine7 Jun 2012 #25

Ooh, how about all plastic guns, too? X_Digger Jun 2012 #32

not even remotely true gejohnston Jun 2012 #33

Seriously? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #13

one thing gejohnston Jun 2012 #14

cop killer bullets defined Progressive dog Jun 2012 #22

He knows what you mean... ellisonz Jun 2012 #24

I know what he means, as well. Unfortunately for both of you- he's wrong. See post #27 friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #28

Yeah ellisonz! You're wrong! It says so on guncite.com!!!!! DanTex Jun 2012 #29

The genetic fallacy again, eh? It doesn't matter where it was posted, he's still wrong. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #36

Of course it matters where information comes from. Guncite is a propaganda site. DanTex Jun 2012 #37

And you've yet to prove me wrong. I admit Kopsch's testimony is hearsay... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #38

And you've yet to prove yourself right... DanTex Jun 2012 #39

There still are plenty of bullets available that will penetrate body armor- rifle bullets. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #40

I don't know if what you are saying about the Biaggio bill is true. DanTex Jun 2012 #42

there is a bit difference between gejohnston Jun 2012 #41

is a propaganda buzz word gejohnston Jun 2012 #26

Unfortunately for you, that source directly contradicts your claims. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #27

one more thing gejohnston Jun 2012 #34

If you think cop killer bullets are bad, look at these heat seekers... beevul Jun 2012 #15

Could you please define clffrdjk Jun 2012 #44

This again? DanTex Jun 2012 #17

Yes! Do you think that valid points will stop being made because you express displeasure? TPaine7 Jun 2012 #18

I get it. You're going ignore everything I said! Nice! DanTex Jun 2012 #20

"I get it. You're going ignore everything I said!" ellisonz Jun 2012 #23

Yawn... TPaine7 Jun 2012 #31

I wish he would ignore this whole group. He has already done me the favor of ignoring me and life Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #45

I addressed your strongest points; I ignored your irrelevant points. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #30

Well, now you're just repeating yourself. DanTex Jun 2012 #35

"Scientific Integrity" TPaine7 Jun 2012 #43

The less you know... DanTex Jun 2012 #46

Ok, you've got some interesting points mixed in with the other stuff. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #47

Oh, I almost forgot. Here is the link to the Times Story TPaine7 Jun 2012 #19