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Starboard Tack

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73. Actually I do, but feel free to ignore my advice. It is your "right" to be wrong.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:43 PM
Jul 2012

Handguns are the most popular tools of violent crime. Adding more of them will never help. The illusion that carrying one helps the individual is absurd.

Could have done that without a gun, but glad things worked out alright. Hoyt Jun 2012 #1
I don't think so... TPaine7 Jun 2012 #2
The perp probably never saw the gun. Too bad gunner didn't tackle him. Hoyt Jun 2012 #3
You are so funny! You simply imagine a reality that suits your purposes. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #4
And you don't. I'm glad man saved her, but if lady had not been carrying, perp apparently Hoyt Jun 2012 #6
Ahh, your omniscience at work again. PavePusher Jun 2012 #5
Pave, you don't know what could have happened without a gun. Hoyt Jun 2012 #7
Niether do you know what could have happen without a gun, GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #15
FWIW Trunk Monkey Jun 2012 #22
Rinse with distilled water and dry thouroughly. PavePusher Jun 2012 #25
Personally, if it was me in that situation shadowrider Jun 2012 #23
Sure..in the thread about farting Upton Jun 2012 #10
No, I did not claim a 72 should be in a NH. Read . . . . . . . Hoyt Jun 2012 #11
"Fact is, guns aren't nearly as necessary as you guys like to believe." Upton Jun 2012 #13
That is a fact. You guys find guns as your go to option in the highly unlikely event you encounter Hoyt Jun 2012 #17
True, guns are seldom the solution, but when they are needed nothing else will do. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #29
There is constant discrimination... mvccd1000 Jun 2012 #18
Yea but Meiko Jun 2012 #8
"Bad ass?" What do you call strapping on a couple of guns to venture out. Hoyt Jun 2012 #12
What do call someone who suggests a flying tackle... Clames Jun 2012 #14
Safety conscience. ileus Jun 2012 #16
We are talking about your Meiko Jun 2012 #19
I call it "being prepared". N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #28
I only carry Meiko Jul 2012 #36
Its all those cans of beans that make him a truly "bad" ass. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #30
This story is a perfect Meiko Jun 2012 #9
I remember walking past a frat house in Athens and some asshole was tracking me jpak Jun 2012 #20
Posted to the wrong thread? ManiacJoe Jun 2012 #21
Cool story, Bro.... n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #26
Note it was "Frat" house. Callisto32 Jul 2012 #67
It sure is and Terry did the right thing by coming to her rescue. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #24
Yes, I CAN imagine NOT helping the woman due to being unarmed. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #27
So would you just stand there and watch? Is that what you're saying. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #31
Terry had a gun, and in most circumstances so would I. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #32
Calling 911 and yelling is a good start. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #33
Yeah, and when it doesn't? Clames Jul 2012 #34
Your naivete amazes me. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #35
Well, we have polar opposite takes on this. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #42
"A firm voice usually does the trick, and when it doesn't, a little firmer always works." TPaine7 Jul 2012 #46
You figured it out. I live in an alternate reality. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #56
No, I won't try it sometime. Simo 1939_1940 Jul 2012 #59
ST, I understand your position sarisataka Jul 2012 #49
Remember, if it's not firm enough, you might as well be firing blanks. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #57
ROFL sarisataka Jul 2012 #58
You are a single point on a Bell curve. PavePusher Jul 2012 #50
I try not to be either median nor mean. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #55
You have simply been very lucky and have never encountered a criminal when they are violent. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #60
"Stop! Or I'll yell stop again!!" Simo 1939_1940 Jul 2012 #62
You obviously need a gun because you don't have a clue about yelling. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #65
You obviously don't have a clue about violent crime. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #66
Actually I do, but feel free to ignore my advice. It is your "right" to be wrong. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #73
Feel free to support your claim that ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #75
Ask the tens of thousands who die every year how much it helped them. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #78
Nice moving of the goal posts. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #79
No withdrawal. Sorry about the goalposts. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #81
You know about as much about violent crime... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #93
Really? You base that assumption on what? Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #95
This is so funny it's impossible to parody (at least without dimishing its humor). n/t TPaine7 Jul 2012 #68
It does rate up there with "natural fighting skills". N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #70
Thanks! I like to entertain Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #74
You *do* realize the "aboriginal terror shout" doesn't actually exist? At least, I hope you do... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #69
Ummm...the anti-gunners tell us all the time how EASY it is for criminals Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #85
Because I would be using a very firm voice Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #87
Gotcha. So, let me summarize the anti-gunner self-defense school: Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #88
If I were a newcomer, I would think they were mocking the anti- rights position. n/t TPaine7 Jul 2012 #89
I'm still not convinced they aren't. Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #90
Hmmmm... TPaine7 Jul 2012 #91
Now you're being ridiculous Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #92
In about 1981 I did help a woman escape from a guy. Yes, I was armed. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #39
You did a noble thing. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #43
There are some real badasses who beat women. They may be less common than the cowards you're talking TPaine7 Jul 2012 #47
Of course. Risk assessment always comes first. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #52
One needs only the Weirding Way to control men.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #77
In a situation like that, yelling "boo" probably would have worked. Hoyt Jul 2012 #37
Pointing a gun at him DID work. Success beats "probably would have worked" N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #38
Except, perp ended up with a gun he stole from lady (because she was carrying in car). Hoyt Jul 2012 #40
So yelling "Boo" would have made him drop the gun he had? GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #41
So, no guns helped in this situation, especially her gun. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #44
maybe her gun was unloaded gejohnston Jul 2012 #45
Either way, it added nothing positive to the mix. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #53
But Perry's gun was a strongly posititve contribution to the mix. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #71
The fewer guns involved, the less likely there will be a homicide. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #72
Yes, the gun in the hand of her rescuer helped. Pretend what you will. n/t TPaine7 Jul 2012 #48
If the bad guy saw it, it might have motivated him to run. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #54
Perry's gun helped. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #61
Maybe permatex Jul 2012 #51
And if he had, and gotten shot for it, you'd be in here dancing in his blood AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #63
That's a Home Run hit! N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #64
One time verse ,how many people were killed by assailants last year ? orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #76
How could the passerby shoot him while he was holding the woman? What if he hit her instead? pnwmom Jul 2012 #80
The article does not say the robber was holding the woman. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #82
Sure it does. "Turn her loose" means he was holding her. pnwmom Jul 2012 #83
That is one interpretation. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #84
Easy. Get closer. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #86
Those who oppose this citizen’s action should publicly promise to shout when attacked “Don’t help me jody Jul 2012 #94
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