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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
67. and now to the crap
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:14 PM
Jan 2012

We'll just address your obsessive nastiness separately.


People who hold armed robbers, home invaders, murderers, kidnappers, torturers, rapists and the like in high esteem should definitely not arm themselves.

But don't advocate for laws to require the rest of us to bet our lives on your cult beliefs.


Why are you talking about people who hold criminals in high esteem? No one else was, and no one else has given any indication that they hold criminals in high esteem. Nothing in this discussion had anything to do with any criminals being held in any esteem by anyone. (Oh, well, without going back and checking, I can be pretty sure that someone did spew some sewage along the lines of One down, let's get the rest of da thugs tomorrow, but that's just what one learns to step carefully over in this place.)

Your immediate next sentence is addressed to me, and makes some rather bizarre reference to my "cult beliefs". Since you don't define that term in any other way, and given how it follows immediately on your reference to people who hold criminals in high esteem, I have no option to but interpret this as meaning that my "cult beliefs" involve holding criminals in high esteem.

This is truly vile and ugly verbiage. You choose (once again, and I might say as usual) to attack anyone who disagrees with you by making these quite atrocious and utterly false claims.

Why do you make this choice?

two guns....what a rude way to treat an unexpected guest. ileus Jan 2012 #1
She should have just served him tea and cookies rl6214 Jan 2012 #8
100% justified We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #2
Looks like a legal and appropriate defensive gun use. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #3
Flee, submit, or hand-to-hand combat. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #4
Then she'd have been a hidden criminal... ileus Jan 2012 #5
I wonder rrneck Jan 2012 #6
she said in another story IamK Jan 2012 #14
Also the police are investigating the recent death of her adult German Shepards Glassunion Jan 2012 #15
Sorry about this... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #7
agreed...n/t ileus Jan 2012 #9
"Textbook" example of a HyperPunk... SteveW Jan 2012 #10
Perhaps he just asked himself, "Do I feel lucky?" discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #12
"Is it okay to shoot him if he comes in this door?" Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #11
I think it is refreshing that some folks in America consider that. Hoyt Jan 2012 #18
Of course you do. Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #22
I know, you've invested lot of money in guns and learning to kill. That would be your first move. Hoyt Jan 2012 #27
In some states, that would be legal. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #74
Another assumption? Remmah2 Jan 2012 #89
Contrast the outcome with Ronyale White in "gun free" Chicago DonP Jan 2012 #13
if only ... iverglas Jan 2012 #19
Even before the tax cutting charlatans gejohnston Jan 2012 #24
please, please, follow the breadcrumbs iverglas Jan 2012 #29
The police can't be everywhere DissedByBush Jan 2012 #49
did you have something to say about the content of my post? iverglas Jan 2012 #52
Wherever you are, the police can't always be there DissedByBush Jan 2012 #96
what I can't imagine ... iverglas Jan 2012 #16
I think I understand what Nuclear Unicorn is talking about, iverglas TPaine7 Jan 2012 #28
TPaine seems to have made the point and I'm curious to see your retort Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #34
you found a point in that? iverglas Jan 2012 #35
Oh you found the point. It's just more convenient to play dumb than to face it. TPaine7 Jan 2012 #42
May I respectfully disagree with your comment below the subject line there? Fourier Jan 2012 #56
Yeah, point taken. TPaine7 Jan 2012 #59
may I suggest, with all the respect that is due, iverglas Jan 2012 #68
oh, my goodness iverglas Jan 2012 #36
Don't run around puffing your feathers just because I didn't reply in 5 minutes Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #38
post #16 is dated yesterday iverglas Jan 2012 #39
hm iverglas Jan 2012 #40
Thank-you Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #41
Proposal C is interesting in that what it reveals TPaine7 Jan 2012 #44
Her statement is a paper thin strawman--at least as she applies it. TPaine7 Jan 2012 #43
Those who endlessly claim that "nobody wants to take away your guns" Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #37
Disagree that anyone would be "well served" by reading "Armed", more could be learned by russ1943 Jan 2012 #72
Congratulations on the single (partial) "gotcha". Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #77
"Kleck is a liberal Dem" iverglas Jan 2012 #86
dirty? gejohnston Jan 2012 #108
I think that most fair-minded people can detect "dirty" when they see it. Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #109
Paul Helmke also claimed Brady is not a gun control organization. gejohnston Jan 2012 #107
Here's a great example of dirty from Paul Helmke Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #111
Looks like another member picked up on Helmke's "untruth" Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #112
There are posters in this sub-folder who would AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #75
oh, I wouldn't worry about that iverglas Jan 2012 #87
I'm glad mom and baby are fine. Of course, robbers might have been there to steal guns. Hoyt Jan 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author DragonBorn Jan 2012 #20
"Robbers"huh? Sounds like you're giving them the benefit of the doubt..n/t pipoman Jan 2012 #23
If they were there to steal guns, they would be "robbers." Still mom did right thing. Hoyt Jan 2012 #26
Complete nonsense pipoman Jan 2012 #32
So you're saying if she had been denied ownership of the guns she would have been safer? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #33
She was the target, not the guns. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #30
Turns ous she believes they were there after her dead husbands cancer pain meds. ileus Jan 2012 #53
I suppose if we outlaw guns criminals will stop looking for cancer meds Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #54
No, but they will be able to invade homes more safely, unthreatened by mothers "protecting" their TPaine7 Jan 2012 #55
There for guns? DragonBorn Jan 2012 #58
Bullseye! n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #60
Do you really believe that thugs would deliberately bring a knife to a shotgun fight? GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #61
Throwing logic and reality in the face of a rights opponent isn't fair. Just sayin'... n/t TPaine7 Jan 2012 #62
Too bad one got away. ileus Jan 2012 #21
Selfish..I'm sure they only wanted her teevee pipoman Jan 2012 #25
Twenty-one minutes, an law enforcement still had not arrived PuffedMica Jan 2012 #31
They wanted her dead husbands drugs. era veteran Jan 2012 #45
Is that from follow-on reporting? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #46
CNN era veteran Jan 2012 #50
This story shows how the tide is turning on the legitimacy of the RKBA TPaine7 Jan 2012 #47
An Update Glassunion Jan 2012 #48
"Obviously when someone breaks into your house with a deadly weapon... Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #51
yes, there are numerous interesting facts iverglas Jan 2012 #57
Heard on the news tonight that the second Goblin will oneshooter Jan 2012 #63
I would be eternally grateful if you would refrain from speaking to me iverglas Jan 2012 #65
I will speak to whom I wish, using the language that I wish,thank you. oneshooter Jan 2012 #91
there ya go iverglas Jan 2012 #92
"No one knows what the outcome would have been had she not had and used a firearm." TPaine7 Jan 2012 #64
I thought it rather obvious iverglas Jan 2012 #66
Hmmm TPaine7 Jan 2012 #70
this repeated meme is certainly interesting iverglas Jan 2012 #85
So much BS, I actually didn't catch it all earlier. TPaine7 Jan 2012 #113
I scanned the noise this far: iverglas Jan 2012 #114
LOL. Typical. TPaine7 Jan 2012 #116
Try swinging a tyre iron at tempered auto glass underwater and let me know how that works out. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #76
You can't have it both ways. LAGC Jan 2012 #79
have you come up with anything to back that up yet? iverglas Jan 2012 #88
Let's fact-check all that, shall we? LAGC Jan 2012 #94
and now to the crap iverglas Jan 2012 #67
In post after post, you have minimized the threat posed by criminals and criticized the actions TPaine7 Jan 2012 #69
A few links for the perusal of the disinterested reader. Judge for yourselves: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #71
And here's one for you iverglas Jan 2012 #90
Forgot the bit about being "hypercritical of defenders", eh? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #97
quote me iverglas Jan 2012 #98
Just out of curiousity, iverglas, what is "evilhood"? TPaine7 Jan 2012 #100
it's moi amusing moiself iverglas Jan 2012 #101
Gladly. I'll leave to the reader to decide what is "sane and decent" friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #102
okay, I looked iverglas Jan 2012 #99
no, iverglas Jan 2012 #82
As a case in point, post 63 above is your defense of the honor of an armed robber and home invader. TPaine7 Jan 2012 #73
They were good criminals, victim's of Americas gun culture. I call them POFS. ileus Jan 2012 #80
as I was saying -- iverglas Jan 2012 #83
at the risk of sounding naive gejohnston Jan 2012 #106
oops, I missed something iverglas Jan 2012 #84
I rest my case TPaine7 Jan 2012 #93
you might want to rest something iverglas Jan 2012 #95
Closing Statement TPaine7 Jan 2012 #103
sweetheart iverglas Jan 2012 #104
That is vulgar, despicable, and inhumane. Please desist. TPaine7 Jan 2012 #105
the necessary corrections iverglas Jan 2012 #115
More Castle Doctrine suckage. LAGC Jan 2012 #78
Turns out she poked holes in the scumbag puke with a double barrel ileus Jan 2012 #81
Doubtful. The other thug surrendered. Looks like she saved one for him. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #110
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