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In reply to the discussion: Survivors of Jan. 8 aid gun controls [View all]X_Digger
(18,585 posts)8. Have YOU read this bill?
[div class='excerpt']The term adjudicated as a mental defective includes an order by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, in response to marked subnormal intelligence, mental illness or incompetency, be compelled to receive services
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Each college, university, or postsecondary institution that receives Federal funds under this Act or any form of financial assistance under any Federal program, including participation in any federally funded or guaranteed student loan program, shall develop and implement, not later than 1 year from the date of enactment of this section, a mental health assessment plan that, at a minimum, includes
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a procedure for making involuntary referrals for such students to State or local mental health authorities for mandatory evaluation
Nope, not enough due process. Do you really want to place that power in the hands of colleges?!?
[div class='excerpt']MEMBERS OF ARMED FORCES- For a current or former member of the Armed Forces, an inference that a person is an unlawful user of a controlled substance may be drawn based on disciplinary or other administrative action within the past 5 years based on confirmed use of a controlled substance, including a court-martial conviction, nonjudicial punishment, or an administrative discharge based on use of a controlled substance or drug rehabilitation failure..
Do you understand what a nonjudicial punishment is? Or what the definition of controlled substance is in relation to USC 921 is? Effective result? If a grunt gets in a bar fight and spends the night in the mil drunk tank and gets busted a stripe for that? Loss of rights for the next five years.
[div class='excerpt']Sec. 932. Background checks for firearm transfers by unlicensed persons
Overreach of congressional power- intra-state commerce.
[div class='excerpt']Background Checks Through Licensed Dealers- A licensed dealer who agrees to assist in the transfer of a firearm between unlicensed transferor and an unlicensed transferee shall--
(1) enter such information about the firearm as the Attorney General may require by regulation into a separate bound record;
Registration? Illegal per current federal law, and a non-starter.
[div class='excerpt'] Purchase Permits Confirming Background Checks- An unlicensed transferor may transfer a firearm to an unlicensed transferee if the unlicensed transferor verifies that--
(1) the unlicensed transferee has presented a valid permit or license that allows the unlicensed transferee to possess, acquire, or carry a firearm;
LOL, CHL holders are exempt.
Yeah, not gonna happen.
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"make sure people like Loughner are not left unreported, untreated and/or free to roam."
ellisonz
Jan 2012
#3
They may be of that opinion, but they're wrong. Loughner went through the NICS to get his guns.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#6
Why don't *you* listen to the father of one of the victims, John Green?
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#45
That's from 2 days after the shooting. He practically breaks down crying on the phone
ellisonz
Jan 2012
#46
So some special pleading is more relevant than other special pleading?
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#56
You picked the wrong batch of victims, for the legislation you referred to.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2012
#115
" If you wish to claim, I approve of a so-called "police state" then you clearly approve of...
PavePusher
Jan 2012
#58
Defining "high capacity" as "anything over 10 rounds" is very intentionally misleading.
benEzra
Jan 2012
#121
You refuse to look at evidence offered, but claim I "have no reasonable objection"
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#36
"Is it any wonder that Chicago attempts desperate measures when all allowed else fails?"
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#44
Looks like Chicago should have adopted Texas-style gun control years ago
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#55
The parents are the reason Loughner wasn't denied the purchase of a firearm.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2012
#148
Spoken truly like someone who obviously knows nothing about the time n/t
We_Have_A_Problem
Jan 2012
#209
"...as the Attorney General may require..." Pheww. There goes the 5th. As usual. nt
SteveW
Jan 2012
#129
I've no doubt of Prof. Nowak's sincerity, but his proposals will fare as well as...
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#12
How would this new bill have stopped loughner, he went thru the background checks.
rl6214
Jan 2012
#19
Only cares about money? A LOT of NRA backed legislation was passed last year.
GreenStormCloud
Jan 2012
#71
LOL! You couldn't even make it through the first example without fabricating a quote!
DanTex
Jan 2012
#119
Suicides are 'gun violence'? Who knew! Are suicides by hanging 'rope violence'?
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2012
#110
Your failure to recognize the loss of liberty in most gun control laws is why you've been failing.
aikoaiko
Jan 2012
#62
Don't mean to freak you out, but new short barreled shotguns are already legal.
aikoaiko
Jan 2012
#98
It's called a trench coat. Willful denial on your part...just admit - it's shortened in many models.
ellisonz
Jan 2012
#174
Pistol grips provide a more ergonomic grip, and thus better control and safety.
PavePusher
Jan 2012
#102
When you spout off nonsense calling for a safety feature to be banned, you are not protecting the ri
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2012
#111
That's less than $0.25 per NRA member. Paul Helmke costs about $5 per BC member....
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#197
Shame on you! Don't you know that's the *wrong* kind of victim testimony?
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#72
I do not support this bill because it destroys firearm ownership anonymity.
Atypical Liberal
Jan 2012
#161