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This sounds like a made up story- why would a white man call another white man "white honky"? kimbutgar Sep 2012 #1
You've never seen white wannabe "gangstas" with racial confusion? MercutioATC Sep 2012 #6
Who uses the word "honky?" nt Confusious Sep 2012 #51
My brother in law. jeepnstein Sep 2012 #114
Well, couldn't you imagine being called a "black honky?" Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #52
made up story or Flashmann Sep 2012 #153
rude baser toter. ileus Sep 2012 #2
Do you have another source for this besides "Students for Concealed Carry - Ohio"? SecularMotion Sep 2012 #3
But yet you have no problem posting articles glacierbay Sep 2012 #4
The police were clearly involved, why don't you call them? rDigital Sep 2012 #5
You say the police were involved SecularMotion Sep 2012 #7
I'm sure there's a police report. We can make that your responsibility to go and fetch it. rDigital Sep 2012 #8
If you can't find a more credible source, you should self-delete the OP SecularMotion Sep 2012 #11
See post #4 nt. glacierbay Sep 2012 #12
Fetch, boy, fetch! rDigital Sep 2012 #13
Funny how he'll post anti gun articles from the VPC, Huffington Post, or the Brady org. glacierbay Sep 2012 #15
Here's the phone number if you'd like to call them Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #14
Just from the facts presented Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #9
Sounds totally bogus LynnTTT Sep 2012 #10
You and SM seem to have some wish he had escalated the situation... Clames Sep 2012 #16
Self-defense does not include pursuit and capture. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #18
Re: The guy with the gun doesn't follow the criminal Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #81
OSU Students near Westland Mall makes it a suspicious story. bluecoat_fan Sep 2012 #17
Make sure you keep all these posts in mind the next time you consider calling a gun owner... Clames Sep 2012 #22
The story sounds suspicious, not the gun owner. I too own a handgun, but the story sounds made up. bluecoat_fan Sep 2012 #83
More lies bongbong Sep 2012 #19
"lies"? Details, please... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #20
I think the expression he uses is "prove it." nt Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #21
Like many gun hero stories, this appears to be mostly fantasy and bravado. DanTex Sep 2012 #23
No it doesn't. Clames Sep 2012 #24
LOL. No evidence! Sometimes I forget how clueless people in the gungeon are! DanTex Sep 2012 #25
Remove suicides from those numbers Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #26
Umm... I think you're getting your NRA talking points mixed up. DanTex Sep 2012 #27
No I was talking about the first link Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #28
So was I. DanTex Sep 2012 #29
Really? Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #30
Yes, really. DanTex Sep 2012 #31
So then you admit it was included... Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #32
It was a survey, it included a lot of things. DanTex Sep 2012 #36
Well then Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #41
It seems to me that this is the first statistical study you have ever seen in your life. DanTex Sep 2012 #43
"When you don't really understand something..." TPaine7 Sep 2012 #85
LOL. With the way you take things out of context, you ought to work for the Romney campaign. DanTex Sep 2012 #86
Why, are you his recruiter? No thanks I'll stick with Obama, but my condolences on your desperate, TPaine7 Sep 2012 #88
Maybe Ron Paul is more your speed -- one of those "it's unconstitutional" wackos you seem to like. DanTex Sep 2012 #89
Once again, my condolences. TPaine7 Sep 2012 #90
Until you showed up to try and settle some old scores, this was, in fact, a discussion about a DanTex Sep 2012 #92
If you read the paper gejohnston Sep 2012 #93
Why are we talking about this again? DanTex Sep 2012 #94
search me gejohnston Sep 2012 #95
So it is a personal grudge! DanTex Sep 2012 #96
ask him gejohnston Sep 2012 #97
That's the problem... TPaine7 Sep 2012 #99
You have a wild imagination. DanTex Sep 2012 #110
... TPaine7 Sep 2012 #111
LOL. DanTex Sep 2012 #112
Mea Culpa TPaine7 Sep 2012 #98
Just read the link Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #35
I said it was controlled for, not excluded. DanTex Sep 2012 #40
Controlled for Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #44
No, that's not what controlled for means. DanTex Sep 2012 #45
Well stats was a long time ago but... Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #78
For the third time, yes, the study controlled for prior criminal history. DanTex Sep 2012 #79
53.12% of victims had prior arrests. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #37
Right, and the effect of criminal history was controlled for statistically. DanTex Sep 2012 #39
How many of the victims had a PA License to Carry Firearm? GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #65
Rebuttal: GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #34
They controlled for criminal record, along with a host of other factors. DanTex Sep 2012 #38
Let me guess, the Brady campaign is the only sufficiently unbiased source of information 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #33
Peer reviewed studies. DanTex Sep 2012 #46
Ha . . .what?!?! 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #47
Peer-reviewed studies... DanTex Sep 2012 #48
Do you consider FBI crime statistics to be valid? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #49
I presented two peer reviewed studies. You? DanTex Sep 2012 #50
If you must ignore the FBI's studies on this then I think we have nothing to discuss 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #53
FBI doesn't have statistics on this. DanTex Sep 2012 #56
Do you acknowledge the the FBI statistics show crime is dropping? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #57
Yes. Do you acknowledge that a gun provides more risk than benefit? DanTex Sep 2012 #58
Excellent. Do you acknowledge that while it was dropping total guns owned 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #59
You ignored my question. DanTex Sep 2012 #60
You ignored mine multiple times 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #61
LOL. Well, ignoring the truth doesn't make it go away. DanTex Sep 2012 #62
So we have more guns and less crime 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #63
LOL. Ignoring me again. I guess when you have no evidence on your side, that's the only play! DanTex Sep 2012 #64
I have real world evidence glacierbay Sep 2012 #66
What you have is anecdotal evidence. DanTex Sep 2012 #67
Wrong. glacierbay Sep 2012 #68
Actually, I'm right. What you have is anecdotal evidence. DanTex Sep 2012 #69
Well glacierbay Sep 2012 #71
Your attempt at an argument here sucks. n/t ellisonz Sep 2012 #125
Yeah, that guy tends to make a lot of noise and then hide when evidence is presented. DanTex Sep 2012 #128
That's one interpretation 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #130
LOL. The "creationist" charge by the guy who's intent on ignoring the scientific evidence. DanTex Sep 2012 #131
You refuse to acknowledge 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #134
What are you talking about? DanTex Sep 2012 #140
You like that phrase 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #161
I suppose the irony is that given his username... ellisonz Sep 2012 #138
Yes, I agree, it is a low-education level demographic. DanTex Sep 2012 #141
It's clear neither of you read those studies 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #162
LOL. "pointing out issues" DanTex Sep 2012 #165
This is getting sad 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #166
You have yet to make a single cogent critique of any of the studies. DanTex Sep 2012 #168
Actually I've made several 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #170
Wrong again. DanTex Sep 2012 #172
You forgot your smiley 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #174
And you forgot to make a cogent point. DanTex Sep 2012 #176
"cogent point" 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #179
Looks like you've completely given up on substance. Not too surprising. DanTex Sep 2012 #181
"scientifically illiterate" 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #183
Still dodging! Anytime you want to talk substance, I'll be here! DanTex Sep 2012 #186
Not really 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #129
Like I pointed out last time you made that silly argument... DanTex Sep 2012 #132
As has been pointed out to you before 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #133
LOL. "the studies you cite are always flawed" DanTex Sep 2012 #137
. . . . 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #160
LOL. This is getting good! DanTex Sep 2012 #164
So your reponse to every valid criticism is either 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #167
LOL. Dodge. Thanks for playing! DanTex Sep 2012 #169
We have another poster that 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #171
Dodge again. Have you read up on proxy variables yet? DanTex Sep 2012 #173
Pro-tip 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #175
Dodge yet again. DanTex Sep 2012 #177
"dodge" 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #178
Still dodging. Whatever you do, make sure you don't try and make a substantive point! DanTex Sep 2012 #180
"fall apart" 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #182
Still dodging! Still waiting for you to respond about those proxy variables! DanTex Sep 2012 #184
"melted down" 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #187
Still dodging! Proxy variables, peer reviewed studies. Any of that ring a bell? DanTex Sep 2012 #188
This message was self-deleted by its author DanTex Sep 2012 #184
Correlation, not causation. n/t ellisonz Sep 2012 #136
You provided garbage. Clames Sep 2012 #74
LOL. Keep that head in buried in that sand! DanTex Sep 2012 #82
"Peer Reviewed" garbage is still garbage. Everyone has an axe to grind, especially those in your rDigital Sep 2012 #84
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #108
LOL. Now that was truly funny! A gun fanatic claiming to understand science!!! DanTex Sep 2012 #109
I did answer your question. You just don't read very well. Clames Sep 2012 #117
So what's the answer? You deny science across the board? DanTex Sep 2012 #118
I deny your brand of opinion-based science. I quite enjoy the fact-based science though. Clames Sep 2012 #119
Lordy. It just keeps getting worse... DanTex Sep 2012 #120
Getting worse is your understanding of basic mathematics. Clames Sep 2012 #121
Those with a fear of instruments have more of a theological view on gun control than logical. rDigital Sep 2012 #122
Funny you bring up "theological view" when you are the one denying the empirical evidence. DanTex Sep 2012 #124
Well that's just like your opinion, man. You're peer-reviewed tripe is "peer reviewed" by people rDigital Sep 2012 #126
LOL. Russia? Again? DanTex Sep 2012 #127
Cool numbers, bro. rDigital Sep 2012 #135
Dodge. LOL. What happened to "Russia" and "deaths per gun". DanTex Sep 2012 #139
Nice try. rDigital Sep 2012 #142
"Russia is an incredibly valid point, that's beyond dispute." LOL! DanTex Sep 2012 #143
So many characters to say so little. Ignore the inconvenient truths, keep your head in the sand. rDigital Sep 2012 #144
Dodge. LOL. Always a good time! DanTex Sep 2012 #145
Because keeping people from killing themselves is really a possibility and by extension a valid rDigital Sep 2012 #146
Get back to me after you've read some of the scientific evidence. DanTex Sep 2012 #147
I'm not arguing with the numbers of that site. I'm saying that suicide isn't a valid gun control rDigital Sep 2012 #148
I don't really care what you think is a valid argument. DanTex Sep 2012 #150
this airplane? gejohnston Sep 2012 #151
you screech "you uneducated oaf" but don't explain gejohnston Sep 2012 #149
Hey, you said "uneducated oaf", not me. But since you mention... DanTex Sep 2012 #152
yes you did, just not that exact term gejohnston Sep 2012 #155
Well, if the shoe fits... DanTex Sep 2012 #156
read my edit, gejohnston Sep 2012 #157
Wow, you really don't get it. DanTex Sep 2012 #158
I get it very well gejohnston Sep 2012 #159
Umm.... DanTex Sep 2012 #163
not quite gejohnston Sep 2012 #189
Yes, and the assault rates are similar to ours. Not nearly as far out of line as homicide. DanTex Sep 2012 #190
over generalization gejohnston Sep 2012 #192
Not necessarily. DanTex Sep 2012 #193
how many of their robberies are guns used gejohnston Sep 2012 #194
Don't know about gun robberies in Canada. I've seen 40% for the percent of Canada's murders by gun DanTex Sep 2012 #195
what increase of murders in Canada? gejohnston Sep 2012 #196
I meant increase relative to UK, Germany, France, etc. DanTex Sep 2012 #197
In Australia gejohnston Sep 2012 #198
LOL. You have zero evidence of cherry picking. DanTex Sep 2012 #123
Probably the only reason that this report made the news ... spin Sep 2012 #54
I don't know if it actually made the news. The link in the OP is to Buckeyes for Concealed Carry. DanTex Sep 2012 #70
Will you at least admit ... spin Sep 2012 #72
Of course. DanTex Sep 2012 #73
I can see some points we agree on. ... spin Sep 2012 #75
‘white honky.’” Botany Sep 2012 #42
Something's wrong brush Sep 2012 #55
I call bullshit TrogL Sep 2012 #76
many CCW stories end without gunshots and 911 calls trouble.smith Sep 2012 #77
Am I evil if I say Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #80
Nope not at all... ileus Sep 2012 #87
I contacted Mike and there have been some updates made to the story. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #91
well, what are the Updates? Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2012 #100
The uPdates have been added on to the original link. : ) nt rDigital Sep 2012 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2012 #104
This is all we really need to know about it... jeepnstein Sep 2012 #116
They are at the link in the OP. I include them as they answer questions raised on this thread: friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #103
thanks, I will delete my reply because it is now redundant. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2012 #105
Did you ask him about his politics? SecularMotion Sep 2012 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author Dash87 Sep 2012 #102
This story sounds like complete and utter bullshit. MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #106
Well then, do the research necessary to debunk it. friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #107
I thought it was BS until the attacker answered his cell phone. jeepnstein Sep 2012 #113
Like you always say. Prove it! upaloopa Sep 2012 #154
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #191
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