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PavePusher

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70. This is perilously close to saying "But look what she was wearing!"
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:01 PM
Sep 2012
So, again, I ask "What makes you a target?"


I advise great caution with your ensuing comments.
I saw this in another thread, Oneka Sep 2012 #1
Exactly my point DWC Sep 2012 #2
Exactly. The song is largely one giant straw man. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #7
"Antis blame the tool. Pros blame the anti-social behavior. " Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #3
In what way is concealed carry antisocial? Common Sense Party Sep 2012 #4
I guess you found the answers. All four. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #8
Let's examine the errors in your statement. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #11
What you said. I find it jawdroppingly absurd that someone considers Common Sense Party Sep 2012 #13
I find it jawdroppingly absurd that you don't consider CCW antisocial Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #27
Consider these responses ErikO Sep 2012 #31
What? Name one. Common Sense Party Sep 2012 #14
It fits all of them. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #17
It fits absolutely NONE of them Common Sense Party Sep 2012 #23
Really? That hard for you? Clames Sep 2012 #5
Being ready, willing, and able to defend yourself is not anti-social behavior. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #6
Did I mention self-defense? No! Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #9
Self-defense with a weapon is still self-defense. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #10
Concealed Carry is nobody else's business DWC Sep 2012 #12
"That is why it is called Concealed Carry" LOL THREADWINNER n/t Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #15
If it were nobody else's business, we wouldn't be discussing it. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #16
Which "herd" thinks that way you ask. DWC Sep 2012 #18
Is that what you learned in the Marine Corps? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #45
Shepards, not wolves, lead sheep to the slaughter DWC Sep 2012 #51
So, "putting my family in such danger" is necessarily associated with CCW? Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #34
My view on this.... virginia mountainman Sep 2012 #19
"Legal guns are not the ones you need to worry about." Indeed. Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #35
I don't worry about guns, legal or illegal. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #37
You do condemn those who legally carry. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #46
I think "condemn" is a tad OTT Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #47
With increasing age one is considered a soft target. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #50
I am prepared to use violence to defend myself. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #54
Avoidance is the best first defense. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #57
You keep using that word "Fear". Your usage is incorrect. PavePusher Sep 2012 #65
Preparedness for the most unlikely of events is not fear. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #71
1.3-1.5 million violent crimes per year. PavePusher Sep 2012 #74
And how do you fit into those numbers? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #78
You are hanging your ignorance out in public view, and that is certainly anti-social. PavePusher Sep 2012 #84
Good for you. Enjoy your "proper holster". Hope it makes you feel safer. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #90
Of course you don't. PavePusher Sep 2012 #96
You forgot the "loaded" and "concealed" parts. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #100
That's only half the equation. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #85
And I'm just as confident I won't need a gun. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #91
That's like saying, "I will wait until I get injured to buy insurance." N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #101
I try not to get injured. I don't think about insurance. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #103
May your good luck continue. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #105
Stunning. Straw Man Sep 2012 #62
You confuse advice with condemnation. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #69
So it's both, then. OK. Straw Man Sep 2012 #82
Bingo! Straw Man Sep 2012 #61
The fact that it is none of my business does not mean it isn't anti-social behavior. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #68
What stunning illogic. Straw Man Sep 2012 #83
You, sir, epitomize the word "obtuse". Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #92
Another non-response. Stay classy, ST. Straw Man Sep 2012 #128
Water! Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #129
You are wrong about "lie by omission". GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #86
Of course, you are correct "by law". Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #93
You've now implied and insinuated that lawful carriers have criminal intent. PavePusher Sep 2012 #97
No, they are just ready to kill. No criminal intent implied. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #102
Why would I shoot another CCWer? GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #106
He carried illegally. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #104
Actually, it's more like going to a card game and not announcing that you have HIV petronius Sep 2012 #87
"all and sundry"? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #94
Are you really going to pretend that this discussion (and your analogy) is petronius Sep 2012 #95
"it's ridiculous to characterize the carrying of an inert object as sneaky, deceitful, anti-social" Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #99
I left out the word "gun" too, since the point applies to any object a person petronius Sep 2012 #108
You don't seem to understand personal boundaries. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #111
Speaking of anomalous, your conception of personal boundaries is the most unusual petronius Sep 2012 #113
Again, it isn't a question of me liking or disliking it. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #114
Like many other items, an improperly managed firearm can be hazardous. As a result, people petronius Sep 2012 #118
Indiscriminate CC is what I oppose, not all CC. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #120
I disagree, there is no "until" - mere presence is not a meaningful public safety issue, and petronius Sep 2012 #121
In most states a legal carrier has to pass state tests first. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #126
You should be safer than the police and definitely safer than the criminals. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #127
So do you think someone who is HIV Positive DWC Sep 2012 #115
No, they should let you know before you have sex with them. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #116
HIV POSITIVE people, according to you DWC Sep 2012 #117
Too little, too late. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #119
So you wouldn't play poker at someone else's place? GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #107
Either at home or a friend's place. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #110
You are comflating legal and illegal concealed carry. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #20
What is truly amazing is that you believe all that. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #25
Legal CCW has not led to more shootings, injuries and death hack89 Sep 2012 #29
Did I mention fear on my part? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #38
Hard facts = real data, not moral panic over other people's actions that you disagree with. hack89 Sep 2012 #49
What's with the "moral panic" thing. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #53
Passing judgement on gun owners exercising a civil liberty based on your biases hack89 Sep 2012 #55
"Passing judgement" - WTF Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #58
"I see it as foolish, unnecessary and socially regressive.." looks like a personal judgement to me. hack89 Sep 2012 #59
If you are discretionary about carrying, as you say, then I have no issue with you. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #63
OK - as long as you don't support changes to gun laws based on your views hack89 Sep 2012 #64
Killing in self-defense, while sad, is morally and legally OK. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #30
Tell yourself that. You don't have to justify your actions to me. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #41
I, for one, choose the limited purpose of self-defense... Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #36
What does being a store clerk or being a woman being raped have to do with you carrying? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #42
I don't wish to wait for a threat to me... Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #48
So you follow all your family around to protect them? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #52
Since I have no family to follow (here in Texas), the question is non-applicable... Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #60
So, again, I ask "What makes you a target?" Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #66
This is perilously close to saying "But look what she was wearing!" PavePusher Sep 2012 #70
What a crock! Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #73
"If you have already suffered violent attacks or threats, then you should consider carrying." PavePusher Sep 2012 #76
You became a victim the moment you first walked out the door wearing a gun. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #79
Really? What *demonstrable* harm comes from wearing a gun? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #81
Do you think all harm has to be "demonstrable" to be real? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #89
Practical considerations aside, you seem to be veering into Robert Bork territory: friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #109
Keep stretching. Mind yoga is good for you. LOL Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #112
Glad you liked A-town. Damn developers are turning it into Miami... Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #77
"It's hard to come up with more anti-social behavior than carrying a concealed handgun... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #21
I'd say you should work on your imagination Union Scribe Sep 2012 #22
Since the whole point of carrying CONCEALED is MicaelS Sep 2012 #26
You don't get it, do you? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #28
It's more like if I don't smoke I will reduce my risk of lung cancer. ErikO Sep 2012 #32
"Carrying a gun is just as anti-social as carrying a cell phone." Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #40
So, taking great pains to camoflauge one's defensive measures... PavePusher Sep 2012 #67
I guess you just answered you own question. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #72
Nice dodge. PavePusher Sep 2012 #75
"It's hard to come up with more anti-social behavior than carrying a concealed handgun" DWC Sep 2012 #80
That's only 9. Keep going, you'll get there soon. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #88
Good thing it isn't up to Cheryl Wheeler. trouble.smith Sep 2012 #24
Cheryl Wheeler is a hypocrite. She has no problem playing gigs in gun-friendly Vermont. friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #33
If Cheryl Wheeler was attacked (heaven forbid) ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #39
she could call for gejohnston Sep 2012 #43
"*I'll* do the "thin'in'" around here!" holdencaufield Sep 2012 #44
Only if he has a Telecaster. jeepnstein Sep 2012 #56
Wow, this thread just got a LOT shorter. PavePusher Sep 2012 #98
?????? n/t DWC Sep 2012 #124
I round-filed the person accusing lawful owners/carriers of criminal intent. PavePusher Sep 2012 #125
My Point Is Made. DWC Sep 2012 #122
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #123
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