Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Where do you stand? [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I do believe that Jews are not monsters and they are not Nazi's, and even if they had guns, it would not have stopped what happened, because if we consider ourself civilized, we would shoot ourselves before we would in cold blood BEFORE they knocked gotten rid of them.
There were more of them. Less of us. (And the ones that survived, some were by chance, and most used their brains to avoid being killed. IMHO). The real smart ones left in the weeks, months before, and the really really smart ones knew their material items had to be given up and they were smart enough to take a little bribe material, and smart enough to know they could make it again a few years later in America, or whereever they settled.
Never again to me means breathing a sigh of relief that Jorg Haider in Austria, after he won power, killed himself going something like 125 miles an hour on the Autobahn
(or was it something else, but it matters little, he is gone, and Jews worldwide should breathe a sigh of relief...however- why did he get any votes?
And why does his lookalike, and soundalike Rand Paul get any votes???
Look up Jorg if you never heard of him, and look at his photo but the clone of the two is not the important part, the important part is that Jorg was ascending power and this was just a few years ago.
But no, IMHO guns would not have saved anyone, maybe given 10 more minutes, but a drone ontop of Hitler would have solved the problem.
(Without Hitler, they were nothing.)
And btw, my grandfather's brother killed himself with his gun, rather than give up everything and leave, like my grandparents, my mother, and assorted many other relatives.
Had they had guns, I am sure they all would have been dead instead of some being here today in 2012 and all that are, are voting for Obama. I would have preferred he lived and gave up everything and make it again in NYC like the other did who came to NY(some went to other countries where members of each family are still alive today).
How possibly could it have done anything more than delay a few days or weeks to fight an impossible fight at that time?(after all America was not in the war at that point, and the outcome did not change til a bunch of years later).(this is not a Quentin Tarentino movie
even if I enjoyed his version of what the past could have been like).
and it isn't guns that keep Israel 2012 safe. It is far bigger and better weapons. But I am for peace and not for war and don't wish to argue Israel 2012 much.
I find both Bibi and the current talking yapper of Iran to be way to hyperbolic and both should shut up and stop the bravado game and find some solution that is who knows what.Because blowing each other up, or having a ground war that kills tens of thousands doesn't help anything and no amount of guns would save someone from the big bombs.
(but a drone on the bad guys would).
again, some of my thinking has evolved since my protest 60s and 70s days, but I never had a gun and I never will.