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In reply to the discussion: I am not a sheepdog [View all]
 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
26. I don't have a problem with that at all.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 04:07 PM
Oct 2012
First, by illegally carrying a gun on a college campus that prohibited weapons, he demonstrated disregard both for the safety of others and for the law.

Yup, he sure did. I personally don't care.

The man is a combat veteran of our armed forces. I would have no problem with him carrying a concealed firearm, even without a permit.

Secondly, Amy Bishop shot 6 people, killing 3 of them, in the very building where I have class. It was just luck that she committed her crime on a day I did not have class.

I strongly considered getting a CCW permit at that point, and carrying on campus even though it is prohibited (though not illegal).

I support CCW permit on college campuses, as there is no reason why a person who can safely carry a handgun down mainstreet cannot also carry one on a college campus.

on the contrary, he justified his illegal and dangerous activities based on his gross exaggerations of the risks faced by college students, along with the fantasy that the gun would protect him.

I don't think he exaggerated the risks faced by college students at all. Violent crime is pretty rare, especially if you are a white, college-educated man. Most people who carry concealed firearms will never need to use them. So what? There is nothing wrong with being prepared.

If it was a fantasy that firearms can protect the wielder than police would not bother carrying them.

This guy got back from Iraq and had trouble adjusting to civilian life

It did not sound that way to me at all. His motivations for carrying a concealed weapon are the same as anyone I've heard that carries a concealed weapon - they want the ability to defend themselves and their loved ones in the rare case that they are confronted with violence.

If you watch the video, he clearly says that when he got back from service he did not carry a firearm - until the Virginia Tech shooting, and then he started carrying. I don't think this has anything to do with PTSD, but rather the wakeup call that shootings happen even in gun-free places like college campuses. Many people have reached the same conclusion without ever being in the military.

A dog would have made a better (and safer) companion than a handgun...

Aw, shit. Next you'll be like the other dude telling us to throw cans of beans.
I am not a sheepdog [View all] rDigital Sep 2012 OP
Well thought out articulate video presentation former-republican Sep 2012 #1
Well stated sentiments on carrying for Oneka Sep 2012 #2
Thank goodness we have tort reform here in Ohio. rDigital Sep 2012 #3
Now that was a great Berserker Sep 2012 #4
I'm no sheepdog, I'm the shepherd. trouble.smith Sep 2012 #5
That's a very good way to look at it nt Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #6
Sheep Dogs scare the Hell out of me. Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #7
if you were in that theater in Aurora, and you were carrying trouble.smith Sep 2012 #8
How could one NOT? Callisto32 Sep 2012 #9
precisely. nt trouble.smith Sep 2012 #10
If I was in the theater in Aurora Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #17
You seem to assume that the "sheepdog" actively seeks trouble and confrontation. PavePusher Sep 2012 #20
Follow these links over to THR Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #22
Hey, I don't speak for anyone else. PavePusher Sep 2012 #23
On most things we agree Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #24
Fair enough. PavePusher Sep 2012 #25
Another "law abiding" gun owner... DanTex Sep 2012 #11
Because no one ever gets shot on a college campus right? nt Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #12
Letter from a Birmingham Jail holdencaufield Sep 2012 #13
Good quote Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #14
"Better to be judged by 12 DWC Sep 2012 #18
Generally I disagree with you Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #19
Yeah, some problems with your 'analysis'... PavePusher Sep 2012 #21
I don't have a problem with that at all. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #26
By my count, that makes four pro-gunners who have now... DanTex Oct 2012 #27
Not just "someone", this one. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #28
Agreed. I have often posted, "I am not a Sheepdog, I am a Longhorn." GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #15
I am not a Sheepdog ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #16
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