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Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
14. My contribution
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 03:42 PM
Oct 2012
1) Please define "gun rights" in your own words.

The right to self-defense is a universal, natural right of all sentient beings. Moreover, being armed is the mark of a free person. It is much harder to compel an armed person to do things harmful to his interests than one who is not armed.

I believe that people should be able to bear small arms suitable for self-defense, sport, and military use.

2) Please explain how you interpret the 2nd amendment to grant "gun rights."

The US Constitution does not grant rights, it enumerates them. The rights listed in the Constitution are understood to be pre-existing.

The second amendment is a very simple, easy to understand right. It says that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It gives a reason why - militia service to preserve the security of free states. This means that the people are to bear arms that at least are capable of allowing them to serve as military forces in an emergency.

Note that the second amendment does not stipulate that militia service is the only reason to keep and bear arms.

3) Please give an example of how a regulation has personally infringed your "gun rights."

I am fortunate in that I have lived most of my life in the South, which has very liberal firearm laws, so I have been largely immune from any impact by anti-gun laws.

The Assault Weapons Bill elevated the prices of assault rifles, and forced me to buy one that had the bayonet lug and threads on the muzzle ground off, but otherwise it was the same as it was before the ban.

Every time I buy a new firearm I am compelled to get permission from the federal government, which marks me as a firearm owner, which undermines the intent of the second amendment by giving the government a list of firearm owners.

I have hesitated in obtaining a CCW permit because this also puts me on a list of firearm owners and undermines the second amendment.
For those who support "gun rights" [View all] SecularMotion Oct 2012 OP
I never use that term because it is inaccurate. Guns are inanimate objects and have no rights. slackmaster Oct 2012 #1
Guns are objects SecularMotion Oct 2012 #3
We'll just have to agree to disagree on some things. Thanks for being polite, and for providing... slackmaster Oct 2012 #5
Self defense could be defined as power as necessary to overpower an attacking force. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #7
So, self-defense is a human right... as long as you do it without tools. PavePusher Oct 2012 #15
So what kind of rights do we find in the Bill of Rights? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #17
Nicely stated Slackmaster Hangingon Oct 2012 #4
Amen, Brother Slackmaster! Hells Liberal Oct 2012 #13
The right to own and carry guns is an enumerated civil liberty hack89 Oct 2012 #2
I support the Second Amendment. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #6
Here's my contribution aikoaiko Oct 2012 #8
What say you, SM? Are there any "gun rights" that you support? nt rDigital Oct 2012 #9
Okay, I'll play discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #10
Okay rrneck Oct 2012 #11
Here goes Hells Liberal Oct 2012 #12
My contribution Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #14
Ok TPaine7 Oct 2012 #16
1. Gun rights.....guns don't have rights, we have rights to own firearms. ileus Oct 2012 #18
What of "water rights," "land rights," "property rights" or "abortion rights"? TPaine7 Oct 2012 #19
Water, land, and property rights are contractual constructs slackmaster Oct 2012 #20
But I thought the issue with "gun rights" was that the rights don't belong to the guns. TPaine7 Oct 2012 #22
I can't really explain myself. It's kind of a sound-of-fingers-on-the-chalkboard thing. slackmaster Oct 2012 #23
People also have water, land, property, and abortion rights. ileus Oct 2012 #24
well, I was going to contribute but, you all took the words right outta my mouth!! Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #21
me too! And I am on a cell phone.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #26
The second amendment "grants" nothing.. X_Digger Oct 2012 #25
My Answer Berserker Oct 2012 #27
Thanks for all the responses SecularMotion Oct 2012 #28
Do you activly support the Brady Campaign or the VPC? oneshooter Oct 2012 #29
re: "...many are uncomfortable..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #31
The Devil is in the details DWC Oct 2012 #30
Popular gun ownership = a test for Freedom. Francis Marion Oct 2012 #32
Guns do not have rights. I have the right to keep and bear arms sarisataka Oct 2012 #33
Ditto, other than Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #34
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