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Gun Control & RKBA

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MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
27. You whole attitude here and on your blog
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:49 PM
Oct 2012

Reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite authors, Lois McMaster Bujold author of the The Vorkosigan Saga.

In here novel Falling Free a race of genetically engineered humans called Quaddies has been created. The Quaddies have a second pari of fully functional arms and hands in place of their legs. The Quaddies are being raised in microgravity abroad a space station to serve as workers who could live and work in microgravity without the side affects that plague normal humans in long term microgravity. They have been deliberately created to be intelligent but docile, and are being raised to place the interests of the group above that of the individual. They are carefully schooled and educated such that they not be exposed to violent literature.

The main character, Leo Graff, a man, is told that he must be very careful lest he "contaminate" the Quaddies with his planetside culture. He make the comment, one I have long remembered. And is promptly reprimanded for it by the head psychologist, a woman.This is a quote written by a woman who obviously understands men, and their mindset quite well.

It's a woman's idea of a perfect society. Everyone is so well behaved."

In other words, your mindset is that if we poor, testosterone addled males would only behave as precisely as women like yourself tell us to, America would have the perfect society.

Well guess what. We reject your philosophy. And we are not going to "behave" ourselves to meet your standards and expectations.

Having a Social Conscience does not mean having to sacrifice everything for the group. While I am quite willing to sacrifice a number of things to the group, in exchange for living in the US, one of the things I am not willing to sacrifice is the RKBA. And I’m not alone in this.

“People not getting hurt” is the not the only thing that matters in this country. Despite all your fantasies to the contrary, freedom is sometimes more important than safety.

We live in a country with a Constitution, BOR and a legal system designed first and foremost to guarantee and protect the Right of the Individual, not the Safety of the Group.

Might Makes Wrong [View all] SecularMotion Oct 2012 OP
I was wondering how that was going to be spun . . . 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #1
Look at the patterns Dog Gone at Penigma Oct 2012 #3
You throw around the word stats a lot 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #5
"crime has not dropped uniformly" Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #7
You're kinda right glacierbay Oct 2012 #14
Cite your evidence, please. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #28
See post 4 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #41
See post 33. It's even documented. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #52
You mean 45? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #53
Well yeah, that one too. PavePusher Oct 2012 #55
Do you activly support the Brady Campaign or the VPC? oneshooter Oct 2012 #37
It makes for a good rant, ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #2
NO. Dog Gone at Penigma Oct 2012 #4
So rrneck Oct 2012 #6
Of course she does, but if she told you then everybody would know, and then it won't work! oneshooter Oct 2012 #16
Bleed....maybe die. ileus Oct 2012 #20
Several Dog Gone at Penigma Oct 2012 #22
Hasn't been my experience with CC permit holders. glacierbay Oct 2012 #25
You whole attitude here and on your blog MicaelS Oct 2012 #27
I disagree slightly, I think the mindset is like that of some conservatives re HPV vaccine. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #56
One of your biggest mistakes is confusing "unarmed" with "helpless" and "harmless". PavePusher Oct 2012 #31
"Unarmed" is also distinct from "known to be unarmed" Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #35
Correct. glacierbay Oct 2012 #36
You get one chance. rrneck Oct 2012 #38
Not to mention that Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #39
Gun control is never about GUNS.................It's about CONTROL. oneshooter Oct 2012 #42
Yep. There's no such thing as a benign bullet. nt rrneck Oct 2012 #43
wake me up after the trials gejohnston Oct 2012 #47
educate yourself on the issue gejohnston Oct 2012 #11
SYG Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #13
I made no assumptions. ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #15
About Dog Gone at Penigma DWC Oct 2012 #17
Also glacierbay Oct 2012 #18
I don't know... ileus Oct 2012 #24
I don't know either.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #32
Please note: Zimmerman's attorney is using a standard Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #21
Off topic but how do you feel about SM stealing your stuff? NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #29
Stealing may be a little harsh ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #34
Off topic and out of line, typical of your posts. SecularMotion Oct 2012 #40
Feel free to hit the alert button NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #60
Yes ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #58
It's all they have left... ileus Oct 2012 #23
Hollow points and blanks. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #8
I have the right to use lethal force Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #9
Missed it by that much Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #30
Says who? Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #10
When you throw around stats and don't even bother to provide any, you lose. rDigital Oct 2012 #12
I'll keep my rights, thanks anyway. ileus Oct 2012 #19
"Shoot first laws"? And you wish to be taken seriously? aikoaiko Oct 2012 #26
Bu-bu-bu-but..... PavePusher Oct 2012 #33
Apparently you weren't Dog Gone at Penigma Oct 2012 #45
So you're comparing all CC Permit holders to this one asshole? glacierbay Oct 2012 #46
Apparently in all that schooling you received 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #48
...or the difference between anecdotes and statistics, as her posts are deficient in the latter. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #49
Pretty much anything with numbers 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #50
No, that's not at all what I'm defending and I dare you to cite to such. PavePusher Oct 2012 #54
Awww now... rrneck Oct 2012 #57
I think this one's already had her quota. PavePusher Oct 2012 #59
In her first week ????? DWC Oct 2012 #61
That never even occurred to me NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #62
Not too sure. rrneck Oct 2012 #63
Canadian? KamaAina Oct 2012 #64
Just savor the aroma. n/t DWC Oct 2012 #65
Actually rrneck Oct 2012 #66
Ummm, yeah... that never happens.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #69
See my thoughts on that here: PavePusher Oct 2012 #68
My CC gun doesn't "print". GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #67
You state ... spin Oct 2012 #44
In many jurisdictions, demonstrably false in the first paragraph. Callisto32 Oct 2012 #51
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