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safeguard you and your family....don't wait ileus Nov 2012 #1
Progressive gun owners don't wear their guns in public. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #3
And what is the "problem?" Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #5
The problem is too many dead and injured people. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #6
Nope. I think it's a style thing with you. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #8
No, it's really about confronting stupidity. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #9
Please explain how wearing a gun in public contributes to the problem of dead people. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #46
You must be kidding, right? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #48
Says you... Clames Nov 2012 #10
You obviously need a history lesson. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #13
My history is fine and doesn't need "fixing" from... Clames Nov 2012 #14
And how did Prohibition work out for progressives back then? LAGC Nov 2012 #15
Exactly my point. Thank you. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #40
And Alcohol Prohibition was one of the worst mistakes MicaelS Dec 2012 #33
I agree with you 100% Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #39
"Progressivism in this country has always been at the forefront on Gun Control and Prohibition." friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #34
You sir, are the revisionist. Maybe I missed the word "progressive" Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #38
The Vermont Progressive Party makes no mention of gun control on their website. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #49
Thanks. I was aware of that. That was my point. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #50
Then carrying guns around (legally) isn't a marker for *anything*, save... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #52
It is a choice for any individual as long as guns exist and should be so. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #53
Choice. Straw Man Dec 2012 #55
Depends on the situation. Sometimes it may be reactionary, but never is it progressive. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #56
And here ... Straw Man Dec 2012 #59
Yeah, well you know what thought did, don't you? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #60
Translation. Straw Man Dec 2012 #61
You said, that not me. Mistranslation. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #62
Respecting choice is progressive. Straw Man Dec 2012 #63
Utter bullshit Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #64
How about respecting the Constitution that guarantees said right to choose? derby378 Dec 2012 #65
Respecting the Constitution is fine. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #66
You just made my argument for me derby378 Dec 2012 #71
Different argument. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #72
I question your authority to define what a progressive gun owner can wear in public. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #17
My authority? LOL Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #21
The Deacons For Defense And Justice certainly felt it was progressive friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #35
My stubborn revisionism? LOL Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #36
A progressive gun owner can wear whatever he likes in public. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #67
it's not regressive either gejohnston Dec 2012 #68
I think I have made my point quite clearly. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #69
didn't say it was gejohnston Dec 2012 #73
I'm with you on that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #74
Read the definition you sent me. ... spin Dec 2012 #75
Then, with respect, we agree to disagree. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #77
TMK, there are three gejohnston Dec 2012 #78
You may well be correct. So AA are proportiantely represented here. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #79
Undoubtedly we will end up agreeing to disagree on this point too ... spin Dec 2012 #80
Actually, I agree with most of that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #83
I have introduced a number of women to shooting ... spin Dec 2012 #96
Do progressive gun owners even own firearms? ileus Nov 2012 #24
There is nothing progressive or regressive about owning firearms. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #25
I don't even have 100...there's only 30-80 currently ileus Nov 2012 #27
Not looking for a '56 Winchester Model 50 are you? n/t Clames Dec 2012 #32
Oh yeah? What else am I prohibited from doing, oh wise and all knowing one? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #85
Who's prohibiting you from doing anything? Certainly not me. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #86
Who are you AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #87
Who am I? A DU member expressing an opinion. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #88
Really? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #89
That would be you. It has nothing to do with rights, but behavior. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #90
It is progressive when various state entities inhibit or infringe upon that right. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #91
That's debatable. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #93
Fair enough. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #94
While the Constitution forbids disarming the people, Mr. Fineblatt does have a path to reducing gun TPaine7 Nov 2012 #2
I think disarming NYPD is going too far. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #7
I wasn't actually saying that he SHOULD disarm police, SWAT or others. TPaine7 Nov 2012 #16
Then you make a good argument for constitutional change. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #19
Sure, if you like tilting at windmills hack89 Nov 2012 #29
Yup. That's the solution to violent firearm crime. Disarm the cops. ... spin Nov 2012 #18
Always happy to entertain. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #20
cops with guns kill people....that's mean and hateful. ileus Nov 2012 #23
To top that off, it's HOMICIDE!!! spin Nov 2012 #30
Any mechanical form of self defense is impolite. ileus Dec 2012 #31
Actually... Spryguy Dec 2012 #54
Actually, yeah. sir pball Dec 2012 #70
What you envision is similar to the the British police force. ... spin Dec 2012 #76
I know and I was thinking that sir pball Dec 2012 #81
Most of the police that I am friends with feel their weapon is a deterrent. ... spin Dec 2012 #82
My officer friends feel the same.. sir pball Dec 2012 #84
Unfortunately many cops have little interest in shooting. ... spin Dec 2012 #95
I know, and as far as I'm concerned that's unacceptable sir pball Dec 2012 #97
My daughter, son, and wife are damned good reasons. ileus Nov 2012 #22
So what are you saying? You accompany them everywhere, like a bodyguard? Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #26
Naw man, the wife started carrying her own personal safety device, and happy watches over the kids ileus Nov 2012 #28
Oh, so you don't carry, just your wife. makes more sense. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #37
deputy happy...He's always armed when on duty. ileus Dec 2012 #41
Little of that makes any sense to me. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #42
no, you got it. montanto Dec 2012 #57
So, you agree with me that he is contradictory? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #58
He may have forgotten a modifier like 'open' or 'concealed'? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #92
Yep. Even gun-controllers "target" Obama... Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #4
Unfortunate choice of words. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #11
Can only hope the irony isn't lost on the OP. Clames Nov 2012 #12
Once they acquire some political power then maybe they will get results hack89 Dec 2012 #43
The plight of gun-controllers is not solely the result of the NRA's power... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #44
their influence is waning. they will leave this world having wasted their time and breath trouble.smith Dec 2012 #45
Get over it , guns are here to stay. former-republican Dec 2012 #47
I don't see reforming stand your ground laws as a matter of gun control bluestateguy Dec 2012 #51
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