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Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
5. Simulations are simulations.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:52 PM
Dec 2012

It is already a known fact that people can be desensitized to images of violence or pornography by repeated viewing of such images. There was a TED talk a while back about how people's brains are being rewired due to the ubiquitous availability of pornography and how in order to get continued dopamine spikes the viewers must constantly be pushing for newer material, since the old material doesn't "do it" for them anymore - they have become desensitized.

We also know that simulations work. As the article sites, aircraft simulators are very, very effective immersive environments for learning how to fly a real plane. And it stands to reason that the more realistic the simulator is, the more effective it is as a training tool. Which is why aircraft companies and the military have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on very sophisticated simulators that mimic real aircraft cockpits down to the tiniest detail and even move to give a feeling of actual maneuvers of the aircraft.

So I believe it is reasonable to assume that the more realistic and immersive the simulation of violence is, the more successful the simulator will be at desensitizing the players to violence.

I've played the Call of Duty series since the very first one came out. Today the graphics are very impressive, but they are still very obviously cartoonish in a cartoonish environment. They have not even yet approached the "uncanny valley" point yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

So it's hard to say what effect current generations of video games might have. I suspect as the realism improves you will see a bell-curve effect on players, where some are effected early on while the majority are effected later and on the opposite extreme will be those unaffected even at high realism.

I wonder if we can look to movies for any indication of what to expect? We now have movies with very, very realistic, graphic violence. I can watch Saving Private Ryan now and watch the soldier with his intestines spilled all over the beach and the other blown in half with little of the shock I felt the first time I watched the film. I refuse to watch films like "Hostel" or "Saw" or most other "horror" films these days as they are hugely disturbing to me. They are no longer the obvious "supernatural buffoonery" of characters like those from the old Halloween, Friday the 13th, or Nightmare on Elm Street series, who clearly had a fictional, supernatural bogey man. Now they are essays in human depravity and entirely too realistic for my taste. I don't want to contemplate some horrific man who tortures hostel visitors in a dungeon because it's all too probable that this actually happens somewhere in the world.

Some day soon we are going to have technology that either interfaces directly with our eyes, like a VR headset, or even directly with our brains, and we are going to have hyper-realistic, hyper-immersive simulations.

If you can't tell the difference between simulation and reality, I can't help but think that will have consequences.



Over all I don't like video games for me/my kids. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #1
everyone has to lose a right because of the actions of a VERY few? Doesn't seem very American to me. trouble.smith Dec 2012 #2
Let's get rid of guns first Politicalboi Dec 2012 #3
How would that happen? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #4
What about realistic video games that represent violence with knives? Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #6
Does that actually happen? Callisto32 Dec 2012 #15
Does what actually happen? Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #18
I also shy away from the gory games, so... Callisto32 Dec 2012 #32
Realistic games enable a person to live in a fantasy world. ... spin Dec 2012 #7
Fantasy vs. Reality with an M1 Garand DonP Dec 2012 #20
And cake and ponies for everyone! Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #12
Why can't we keep guns AND video games... NewMoonTherian Dec 2012 #37
Simulations are simulations. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #5
I don't think the ultra realism matters. Think it's the subject matter that is most important. rDigital Dec 2012 #9
I think realism is everything. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #13
Strange. Callisto32 Dec 2012 #16
You're doing it right. : ). nt rDigital Dec 2012 #24
If this is your theme song gejohnston Dec 2012 #8
While those are humourous, I have to do this.... Callisto32 Dec 2012 #17
mostly because I was going for the humor gejohnston Dec 2012 #22
Where the hell are the champions of social science when we need them most. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #10
playing "Hitman" while gejohnston Dec 2012 #11
Well, I taught government at a community college. I'll give it a shot... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #19
You're begging a lot of questions, there..... Callisto32 Dec 2012 #14
: ) I'm just waiting for the killjoys to show up. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #21
Please, explain to me how this OP meets the SoP for this group. Thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #23
What's more to blame? Guns or Violent media? nt rDigital Dec 2012 #25
ok. got it ... Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #26
Why stop at violent FPS games? octothorpe Dec 2012 #27
Civ V is awesome. rDigital Dec 2012 #28
i need to give Civ V another try with its new expansions.. octothorpe Dec 2012 #29
CIV V was dumbed down a bit for the main stream. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #30
This is so ludicrously wrong Dash87 Dec 2012 #31
Not really. If even one person could be saved, it's worth banning Violent Media. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #33
That argument is more suited for gun control. Dash87 Dec 2012 #35
The statistical correlation shows that violence goes down as video game playing goes up. Exultant Democracy Dec 2012 #34
Completely and utterly wrong. Ditzydoo Dec 2012 #36
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