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Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:45 PM Dec 2012

Could Concealed Carry Permit holders be our version of the Israeli Civil Guard? [View all]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Guard_%28Israel%29

The Civil Guard (Hebrew: משמר אזרחי, Mishmar Ezrahi), abbreviated in Hebrew as Mash'az (משא"ז is a volunteer organization of Israeli citizens which assists in daily police work. It is a subdivision of the Israel Police.

As of today, the Civil Guard is a division in the "Police and Community" branch of the Israel Police. The Civil Guard is managed and supported by the police which provide weapons, equipment, training and police officers who command local Civil Guard bases (each community has one or more Civil Guard bases). Although the Civil Guard is operated by the police, its manpower consists mainly of civilian volunteers. Members are trained to provide the initial response to a security situation until the police arrive. Most Civil Guard volunteers are armed with M1 Carbines and personal handguns (if the member has a civilian gun license). The Civil Guard is composed mainly of volunteers who do patrols (in car or on foot). They go through basic training and have limited police powers while on duty. They may apprehend a suspected person or make an arrest if necessary. Equipment generally consists of a fluorescent yellow police vest, flashlight, radio, firearm, handcuffs and whatever else may be required particular to the assignment. Equipment is returned at the end of the shift. Most volunteers manage about one shift a week (2 to 4+ hours), while the minimum requirement is 12 hours a month.


What if our CCW training was like this? Could these volunteers then guard our schools and other gun-free zones?
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You sound like you could be George Zimmerman. leveymg Dec 2012 #1
Why? Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #2
Zimmer treated his carry in the same way - as if he were part of some armed militia protecting the leveymg Dec 2012 #5
But Zimmerman had none of the proposed training. n/t Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #8
He had a carry, and even if he was trained, he's a racist vigilante who's too dangerous for a gun leveymg Dec 2012 #14
Is the implication here that anyone with a CCW permit is a racist vigilante? nt Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #15
The implication is that this armed militia of yours will attract many of them. No thanks. leveymg Dec 2012 #19
No different than what's already on the police force. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #20
G-d help us. leveymg Dec 2012 #22
George Zimmer is not who you were thinking of. beevul Dec 2012 #21
Was in a bit of a rush. You know what I meant. leveymg Dec 2012 #23
I know. beevul Dec 2012 #24
Easier to include them in a state's unorganized militia because state and federal law already exists jody Dec 2012 #3
It is sad to think we need such a system sarisataka Dec 2012 #4
There is a vast world of difference between citizens carrying and professions guarding a school Kennah Dec 2012 #28
no. bowens43 Dec 2012 #6
If we accept the number of guns sarisataka Dec 2012 #7
The guns aren't going away. The President just got done saying so THIS MORNING. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #9
Not really. jeepnstein Dec 2012 #10
Just say no to untrained. unaccountable Gun Nut Militia jpak Dec 2012 #11
Perhaps you missed the part where this is a part of the police forces? Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #17
then we will all be hostages to the gun nuts nt msongs Dec 2012 #12
Anyone can volunteer. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #18
Like Zimmerman? No thanks. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #27
Like you. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #30
I would rather pay an extra couple of buck in taxes to gejohnston Dec 2012 #13
I'd rather hire more cops. ntt rrneck Dec 2012 #16
No fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #25
NO. No official humoring of CC fantasists. MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #26
Oh great Mall Cop with a license to kill. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #29
It appears that there is more training than just a security guard. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #31
Since that's not what they actually want, you'll continue to receive only hyperbolic derision. PavePusher Dec 2012 #32
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