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GreenStormCloud

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186. How long is the battery in the gun good for?
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:52 AM
Dec 2012

The RFID reader will have to be in the gun so there is room for the battery, and the reader will have to be always on to be able to sense the hand grabbing the gun. And that would drain the battery fairly quickly.

OK, the RFID could be turned off to save battery life, but if you are a cop or security guard with the gun in the holster, you don't want to be slowed down by having to turn the gun on. Having the battery die and you not being aware of it until you have to use the gun could get you killed.

Nope. Gunners won't go for it.

Number 2 could be considered a violation or an infringement... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #1
Could be. I think it should be tested. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #4
okay a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #5
Stop it. You are asking him to actually THINK about what he says... cleanhippie Dec 2012 #39
good point... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #40
You're a geek Bob. Why don't you design it. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #112
great... another thing ot add to the job stack... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #125
I had someone say that it was a violation of 2nd amendment rights rbixby Dec 2012 #156
I don't see a problem there... n/t a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #157
if its not a flintlock musket or pistol you have no right to have one, as we know msongs Dec 2012 #2
Yep, and the 1st amendment only applies to newspapers, books, and soapboxes - not the internet, kelly1mm Dec 2012 #9
The Internet, CDs, DVDs, films and TV are all regulated. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #78
it is? gejohnston Dec 2012 #83
well... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #126
And the Pirate Bay is just a figment of someone's imagination ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #193
Not bad, let me pick at it a bit: NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #3
Thanks Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #11
I think it's a thoughtful approach. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #15
my thoughts gejohnston Dec 2012 #6
thank you for stating this so much better than I did below. but, this mental stuff has to be careful Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #13
Suggestion atreides1 Dec 2012 #7
Number 2 is unconstitutional hack89 Dec 2012 #8
microchips. how sci-fi of you. define mental instability. GPS chip? kiss my ass. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #10
GPS chips are part of life now, like it or not Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #16
you do realize that most pros get in the field to try and understand their own neuroses/psychoses? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #19
This can't agree with this post more..... LeftofU Dec 2012 #24
No, a lot less gun violence. Think about it. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #46
There isn't a lot of gun violence to begin with. 300 million people, 100 million guns Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #206
Tell that to the families of the 30,000+ who lose their lives every year. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #208
Death is death, nice try at deflecting that fact. n/t Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #215
So what? We're here to talk about gun violence. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #216
I agree with all you say except vioalation of HIPAA Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #45
"....we risk losing our rights." Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #82
This entire thread is about not losing our rights. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #89
My whole point to you was they wouldn't have been stolen with this technology Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #93
How well did they work in the Mexican gun thing? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #26
Try to be positive here please. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #47
All the optimism in the world will not trump the physics ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #80
Quit being a naysayer. We have the technology. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #86
As a geek with some RF background, no we don't ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #97
Care to tell us how we don't or do you want to figure out how we do? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #98
The first problem is RF propagation through metal ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #149
Of course it isn't the best solution Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #152
Because you are trying to solve problems in society with a less than adequate ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #190
The underlying problem is easy access to firearms, period. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #191
Not true ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #192
Obviously, that easy access needs to be stopped. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #195
Access used to be much easier and we did not have these problems ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #197
I think you are wrong. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #198
relative to the population gejohnston Dec 2012 #199
Ive seen many post about GPS, I find it kind of funny. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #109
And if it won't function without being charged? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #110
You might want to check this out Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #111
And what do you do when the battery dies (or is removed) Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #142
I do nothing and neither does the gun. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #144
Only if its a phaser ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #194
Not my problem. The manufacturer would have to figure that out. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #196
You haven't provided any solutions. Clames Dec 2012 #200
Right Mr. Negativity, except it will be you who loses his guns, not me. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #209
what you think is a solution is really gejohnston Dec 2012 #210
Are you saying a minority want safer communities? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #212
I'm saying the minority is motivated by gejohnston Dec 2012 #214
That is a good step in the right direction but would it be expensive to implement? JDPriestly Dec 2012 #12
Good questions Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #48
A couple of technical points ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #14
Yup, once again technical ignorance sinks another "reasonable" proposal. Clames Dec 2012 #22
The antenna is even harder. ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #23
they bought cheap batteries from Radio Shack gejohnston Dec 2012 #25
Check your cellphone and learn about tethering. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #57
Still requires a transceiver. Clames Dec 2012 #64
Tsk, tsk! Such negativity. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #67
Sorry you find facts so troubling... Clames Dec 2012 #104
And your solutions are what precisely? Putting down good ideas? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #108
I don't advocate any of these measure. Clames Dec 2012 #129
or he has investments gejohnston Dec 2012 #131
So, you've got nothing. No surprise there. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #133
Nothing that would make you happy. Clames Dec 2012 #134
It's only a good idea... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #130
Please explain what would not work Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #136
Biometric sensors are getting better by the day Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #52
You are overestimating the state of the art with biometrics ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #79
Wireless power is already here. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #90
Its not in general use and the EMI issues remain unaddressed ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #96
Not bad...however RegieRocker Dec 2012 #17
Screw the hunters. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #20
Screw you RegieRocker Dec 2012 #21
Only as long as law enforcement agencies agree to the same conditions in reference to the technology Remmah2 Dec 2012 #18
Agreed. Make the penalties for hacking unpalatable. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #58
Ban high cap flash drives! Remmah2 Dec 2012 #135
The GPS chips Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #27
Unless the chip has been disabled or the battery in it has died. Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #29
It's already borderline possible Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #32
Good post thanks. We need more positive voices here. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #60
Nothing is going to work every time, but if it works sometimes it could save lives Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #114
RFID chips gejohnston Dec 2012 #31
See above n/t Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #33
I'll have to think about some of those...the tracking thing sounds too Patriot Act to me. Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #28
Thanks for the feedback. Lots of details to be ironed out. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #62
Sorry, gotta disagree on most of this tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #30
OK let me respond Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #65
These coudl work tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #72
I agree that no measure will completely fix the problem. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #76
In reply... Spryguy Dec 2012 #123
Do you smoke pot? gejohnston Dec 2012 #124
Which of these AlexSatan Dec 2012 #34
None of them. jeepnstein Dec 2012 #36
These Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #70
But it is pretty likely AlexSatan Dec 2012 #71
Obviously a detail that would have to be worked out. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #77
Once you prove that the technology will never fail hack89 Dec 2012 #35
Thoughts Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #37
Excellent points! I think we are now on the same page. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #75
I don't know about transmitting. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #88
Great stuff. I love it when people start to really think. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #95
No. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #38
I guess your cup is always half empty. What a shame. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #81
Notice How the Gun Clutching Crowd Will Call You Stupid After fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #41
to avoid the "it's already being done" gejohnston Dec 2012 #42
Exhibit A fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #43
meanwhile back in reality fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #44
ST posted suggestions tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #49
Exhibit B fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #50
And still no constructive input tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #51
Correct fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #55
Fair enough tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #59
Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #69
Work with me tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #73
Not Sure I Agree fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #143
Sorry, last night was a little hectic. Didn't get around to answering tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #164
I don't disagree with a thing you say. fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #165
Not all. Quite a few are very positive. I'm really encouraged by the response. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #101
Replace CCW with OPEN Carry HockeyMom Dec 2012 #53
I'm with you on that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #54
I live in Florida which now has a proposal HockeyMom Dec 2012 #56
why did Florida ban OC? gejohnston Dec 2012 #61
Let's try to stay on subject GE. We're getting good feedback here. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #63
you said Floridians banned it because gejohnston Dec 2012 #68
It's not embarrassment, it's because it's none of your fucking business that I'm carrying Kennah Dec 2012 #148
Well, guess what? Public safety trumps that kind of an attitude. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #153
so public safety trumps gejohnston Dec 2012 #154
No. I think you know what I'm talking about. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #158
partly devil's advocate, gejohnston Dec 2012 #160
Well, I don't support the Patriot Act or Stop and Frisk. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #161
OK, gejohnston Dec 2012 #162
Well, there is more than one way to look at that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #163
This is an argument I have often with open carriers. I'm safer being anonymous. Kennah Dec 2012 #166
I'm wrapping my head around this idea... tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #66
I like this idea the best so far. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #92
It appears the GPS data would be available to LEO... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #74
Correct. It would be a defacto registration system for certain types of weapons. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #84
how would it do that? gejohnston Dec 2012 #87
Of course. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #94
many of those are businesses decided by those businesses gejohnston Dec 2012 #100
Details to be worked out. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #103
Would this be applied to 10s of millions of semi-auto hand guns as well? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #150
Of course. Not much point otherwise is there? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #151
Then what would be the fate of revolvers? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #168
Nothing Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #169
Criminals would love your GPS idea. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #99
exactly what I was thinking about the GPS idea Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #102
Not bad ideas! roninjedi Dec 2012 #105
Why do you find the GPS tracking idea intrusive? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #113
so, would I have control over the tracking? gejohnston Dec 2012 #115
That's something that needs to be discussed. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #118
as long as the you remember to leave your gun home gejohnston Dec 2012 #120
Excellent questions roninjedi Dec 2012 #122
Firstly, I think we are a long way from anyone pounding on doors. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #146
point of living in a society? gejohnston Dec 2012 #147
Would all of these proposals oneshooter Dec 2012 #203
Maybe. What do you think? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #204
They are only citizens, just like the rest of us. oneshooter Dec 2012 #211
I'm OK with that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #213
most of it is good gejohnston Dec 2012 #107
The app would only be available to registered users. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #106
May I add to your list customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #116
I doubt anyone knew gejohnston Dec 2012 #117
I thought about adding that Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #119
first manufacture that does it gejohnston Dec 2012 #121
How are you going to make the GPS chip work again? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #127
if theives defeat your bank vault and alarm, gejohnston Dec 2012 #128
That doesn't seem terribly reasonable. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #132
I'm not following you? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #137
Only works when the gun is on the move... AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #138
Technology exists. Needs to be developed and fine tuned. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #139
No thanks on being the beta tester. jeepnstein Dec 2012 #140
Well, we have to choose as a society which direction we want to take. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #145
Someday, quite likely. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #141
all great ideas, the GPS thing would be the hardest/most expensive farminator3000 Dec 2012 #155
Thanks for the positive input and welcome to DU and the Gungeon. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #159
Cars are a lot bigger. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #177
you should google things sometime, it's fun! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #178
I saw that on the local TV news gejohnston Dec 2012 #179
GPS and Smart Chips are not the same. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #180
no duh, what's your point? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #181
You can't require something until the technology is actually available. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #184
how does two weeks sound? or go to ireland and try one farminator3000 Dec 2012 #185
How long is the battery in the gun good for? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #186
couldn't tell you. Ireland, laddy! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #187
Current battery technology will not build one that lasts long. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #188
Well Said ralfy Dec 2012 #167
What laws do you support that protect an individual's inalienable right to self-defense against jody Dec 2012 #170
Laws? Self defense is a natural right. Doesn't require laws. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #172
Doesn't matter. Laws will be passed to prevent another Sandy Hook Tragedy. We who support RKBA must jody Dec 2012 #173
I'm trying to find a viable solution to save lives. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #182
It's not viable though. And you know that. n/t Ashgrey77 Dec 2012 #205
Care to explain why not? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #207
My only question is the technology Glassunion Dec 2012 #171
How about on duty cops are not part of this system. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #174
Fair enough. Glassunion Dec 2012 #175
Anonymous means anonymous. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #176
Bearing Arms doesn't exclusively mean guns. SEMOVoter Dec 2012 #183
I agree 100 per cent Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #189
my responses below - good suggestions btw samsingh Dec 2012 #201
Thanks. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #202
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