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37. That happened with Occupy Oakland, too.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jun 2015

The ultra-left were extremely nasty and negative to mainstream folks and wanted it to have a narrow appeal. They isolated themselves and told the community, which included people of color, (at least the people I work with, who have told me what happened to them) to GTFO. I was involved in a march where Occupy and the youth of Oakland marching for jobs almost got into it, because the white anarchists were being so racist and not working with anyone else.

On twitter many of the anarchists said that they specifically did not want Occupy Oakland to be something where families or mainstream political people would feel welcome. They actively resisted making spaces where marginalized groups could feel like their voices were being amplified, and instead emphasized the 99%, which doesn't acknowledge that a percentage of the 99% has been trampled down harder, and should get the first place in line to make sure their voices are heard.

Bernie was endorsed by Occupy, so...I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that many of the same attitudes that were attracted to Occupy have now shifted to Bernie. For some reason that defies all logic, they think that there is some silent majority of cool kids that are going to rise up and eclipse us, the boring and stupid people who already vote, and do some electoral miracle. It's like waiting for the Great Pumpkin, imo.

They exist to be infuriating and to split coalitions. Trying to get them to really "get" what you are trying to say is just like getting gum on your shoe, from my experience. They are very good at twisting what you say and making it sound like you are oppressing them with your oppression. (And you are right about the licking stuff!)

It's the same pandering bullshit BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #1
This POC does not see it the same way as you. azmom Jun 2015 #2
Then we need to agree to disagree BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #3
Yeah, that's not good. Did all of the candidates phone it azmom Jun 2015 #4
Ask yourself when the primaries are BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #5
It is still much too early. azmom Jun 2015 #6
In 1980 BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #7
of course not heaven05 Jun 2015 #113
Thank you. Have you seen the attacks in the big forums on minority communities? Number23 Jun 2015 #17
There is a large (and growing) number of people on DU with an agenda BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #22
Please check out the most recent MLK thread in this forum Number23 Jun 2015 #25
Holy crap gollygee Jun 2015 #30
That's why so many of us don't even bother. There is no reasoning with people like this Number23 Jun 2015 #31
I had finally finished going through the 1st thread BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #36
Yep! They Hulk the fuck OUT. Number23 Jun 2015 #42
Yup BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #46
Their approach makes me distrust Sanders JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #49
I have truly come to believe that THIS is the one true goal of this group of loud know nothings Number23 Jun 2015 #52
Look down in this thread a bit JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #55
IDK if they understand what they are doing will discourag people from voting, period: freshwest Jun 2015 #62
It's insane. And it's just dumb and pointless. I don't get it. Number23 Jun 2015 #64
That's why I feel some are Libertarians. This was the 2008 behavior of Pauls. freshwest Jun 2015 #66
"And with that latest thing going after noire" Number23 Jun 2015 #72
Oh, you missed that drama, huh? It was ugly, but here you go: freshwest Jun 2015 #75
That's precisely what I think many of them try doing here. lovemydog Jun 2015 #78
Someone so self-entitled BainsBane Jun 2015 #71
Yes, they are trying to create divisions azmom Jun 2015 #94
I still don't really have an answer to that, sadly Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #32
Why do I get the feeling most of these folks probably couldn't even do that right? Number23 Jun 2015 #35
That happened with Occupy Oakland, too. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #37
Occupy has got to be one of the left's biggest blunders and disappointments Number23 Jun 2015 #45
+1000 Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #50
some in the occupy movement do azmom Jun 2015 #95
Same with Occupy New Mexico. lovemydog Jun 2015 #81
It was nuts, wasn't it? Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #86
I don't know if you saw what happened here BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #39
Yes, between that and jumping into groups, they have all the zeal of a Paulite. And some.. freshwest Jun 2015 #58
. . . BainsBane Jun 2015 #47
You owe me a suit cleaning bill ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #63
Well, I was born and paying attention and it was ALL about race. They should stop denying this! freshwest Jun 2015 #69
You need to hurry up and post your findings from your three OPs. That will make for some very Number23 Jun 2015 #73
OMG! I'm dying here! ROFLMAO! freshwest Jun 2015 #76
+1 for one of the funniest lovemydog Jun 2015 #80
A percentage of the supporters are trolls, I'm convinced steve2470 Jun 2015 #84
LOL. Okay azmom Jun 2015 #93
Yep, it's going to get worse heaven05 Jun 2015 #112
Whaddaya mean? MADem Jun 2015 #27
Some BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #33
People who have had a fairly high profile in public life say a lot of things. MADem Jun 2015 #38
I think the epitome of that was displayed here BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #44
I loved the idea of of an MLK memorial in DC--I hated the execution of that thing. MADem Jun 2015 #51
I think the repair is still underway BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #57
Last I heard Secretary Salazar said it was staying blank. That is what the artist recommended. MADem Jun 2015 #59
Okay that's what I thought I had seen... BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #60
Am I the only one who thinks the sculpture itself is ugly? BainsBane Jun 2015 #67
I thought that it's a cover for a statue of Chairman Mao! MADem Jun 2015 #68
OMG, what a night! freshwest Jun 2015 #82
That post deserves a drum roll! And a bada bing! MADem Jun 2015 #85
Well ... I'm done. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #8
Agreed JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #9
And sadly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #10
Psst - know what I did? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #11
But how will I be entertained? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #12
Fair point JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #13
Help me, you are speaking of the Bernie supporters who are using MLK to incorrectly imply randys1 Jun 2015 #16
That, too! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #20
Wait, but... I want to understand what you were talking about, if not that, what. randys1 Jun 2015 #21
It is far more general ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #24
Oh, that. I am arguing with a braindead rightwinger elsewhere at the moment, a group of us are randys1 Jun 2015 #29
It's reminiscent of the larouchies.... boston bean Jun 2015 #41
No, I suspect they care about me ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #48
I saw that OP when it only had a few posts. Just saw it again. The "Amens" have done it for me Number23 Jun 2015 #19
I have been banned from the Bernie group. I have supported Bernie both financially and in his randys1 Jun 2015 #23
"The Bernie group on DU is nothing like the Bernie group in the real world, I hope" Number23 Jun 2015 #26
+1000 sheshe2 Jun 2015 #34
^^^This^^^ tishaLA Jun 2015 #40
.... greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #43
In response to this thread JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #53
I can't find the post yet, but you said of O'Malley and positions and reciepts. Then gave a list of freshwest Jun 2015 #104
You tell no lies! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #105
I know you do! I'm more likely to use that gun. Some have cut on me too long. I got a short fuse now freshwest Jun 2015 #106
Amen Sistah.. sing it! Cha Jun 2015 #70
That forum brooks zero dissent--even if the dissent has nothing to do with the candidate. MADem Jun 2015 #28
Yet - the AA goupis hostile to non blacks JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #54
Ha ha ha!! MADem Jun 2015 #56
Who said that? BainsBane Jun 2015 #65
Apparently a few folks saw fit to "inform" the OP that we were just terrible, awful here Number23 Jun 2015 #77
Really? gollygee Jun 2015 #87
YEZ, Y IZ U SO MEEN 2 MEE? freshwest Jun 2015 #99
Oh my! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #100
How'd you like the 'AllAboutMee' cat? freshwest Jun 2015 #101
So true and accurate! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #102
That is my assessment too. I've been azmom Jun 2015 #89
it's the same ones who keep doing it also JI7 Jun 2015 #14
An honest conversation and ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #15
Are you starting to see why you can practically count on two hands the number of black posters in Number23 Jun 2015 #18
Very clear and obvious and I guess nobody cares, NOBODY...not here anyway randys1 Jun 2015 #90
Not many latinos either. Our forum is dead. azmom Jun 2015 #98
Dear god, it was just reposted in GD. By demand, apparently. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2015 #61
And deliberately going against the new rules on electioneering. It won't be locked, because... MLK! freshwest Jun 2015 #83
If it weren't for my friends here in this group lovemydog Jun 2015 #74
When I saw that one quote by MLK posted yet again, without context, without anything... Spazito Jun 2015 #88
And here's the thing, most Bernie supporters on DU dont know what he means, anyway. randys1 Jun 2015 #91
From my perspective... Spazito Jun 2015 #92
That's what I'm hoping for. Bernie is a real lefty azmom Jun 2015 #96
That's a cheat JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #103
You know they are all liars. azmom Jun 2015 #107
I have no idea who that is JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #108
I don't either, he is not mainstream. azmom Jun 2015 #109
After seeing what went down JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #110
DU is fucking racist. azmom Jun 2015 #111
Thank you for this thread. Reading all of your comments makes me feel normal again. betsuni Jun 2015 #79
Same here betsuni. lovemydog Jun 2015 #97
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