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Response to MADem (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:26 AM

82. OMG, what a night!

Digging up a dead man, repeatedly, to try to support a live candidate suggests that there aren't any live people in the constituency that are willing to pipe up for said candidate.

That's just sad. But after I read what was posted above about the AAs talking about race too much... I think AAs should decide when enough is enough.

BS is disappointing me now and I'm reeling reading he said that. It shows not walking a mile in the other man's shoes. Race was a factor for AAs in everything about this nation even before it was founded officially.

Yes, tell AAs to STHU. If you don't agree, you must be:

Lumpenproletariat
is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx to describe the layer of the working class that is unlikely ever to achieve class consciousness and is therefore lost to socially useful production, of no use to the revolutionary struggle, and perhaps even an impediment to the realization of a classless society.[1]

The word is derived from the German word Lumpenproletarier, a word literally meaning "miscreant" as well as "rag". The term proletarian was first defined by Marx and Friedrich Engels in The German Ideology (1845) and later elaborated on in other works by Marx.

The Marxist Internet Archive writes that "this term identifies the class of outcast, degenerated and submerged elements that make up a section of the population of industrial centers" which include...

"beggars, prostitutes, gangsters, racketeers, swindlers, petty criminals, tramps, chronic unemployed or unemployables, persons who have been cast out by industry, and all sorts of declassed, degraded or degenerated elements."[2]


In The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon (1852), Marx gives this description of the lumpenproletariat:

Alongside decayed roués with dubious means of subsistence and of dubious origin, alongside ruined and adventurous offshoots of the bourgeoisie, were vagabonds, discharged soldiers, discharged jailbirds, escaped galley slaves, swindlers, mountebanks, lazzaroni, pickpockets, tricksters, gamblers, maquereaux [pimps], brothel keepers, porters, literati, organ grinders, ragpickers, knife grinders, tinkers, beggars — in short, the whole indefinite, disintegrated mass, thrown hither and thither, which the French call la bohème.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat

Well, nice to know who should be consigned to the dump. Is it any wonder so many are treated with disdain?

Not exactly an improvement over the idealism of 'All Men Are Created Equal,' huh? Think I'll just pass on that one...

I'm a democratic socialist, but exclusivity of the type preached there (did anyone note all the 'Amens' in the MLK, Jr. thread?) is not better than the American system, with all its faults.

It's also, as cited here in the group, that white privilege and unwillingness to see others as equal that got MLK, Jr. killed. Not just because of human or worker rights, but racism.

I can't imagine how grinding it is to have one's suffering usurped by those who didn't give a damn in the first place.

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