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Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
16. I like O'Malley,
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:16 PM
Oct 2015

he's just not my first choice.

The shoving the Reverend down our throats all summer, I got sick of it as well. I think it's a matter of priorities that differ, for some the economic issues are universal ("lifting all boats&quot but for others staying alive takes precedence. You won't get any argument from me on that.

But that's not what I was getting at anyway - I was saying that when "selling" Bernie, some are saying to avoid comparing the U.S. to other countries because nobody cares what other countries do. Because Bernie needs to find another way to explain socialism, specifically, some are telling him to use FDR as an example of how great socialistic policies are and how well they work.

But - did they work for black folks? Not exactly. They could have, had they been applied to all Americans, but didn't. FDR is not going to be a very good selling point to some of us. People deep in poli sci/history as a study will already have a grasp, but they don't need the education anyway.

What I wanted to know is if instead of saying something like, "Socialism is not what you think it is, one of our greatest Presidents saved the country from spiraling out of control by applying socialistic policies." To include black folks in that ... I'd say, or add that Dr. King and his views are aligned with these policies, which is factually true. But it being factually true doesn't mean it's a smart move. Personally, I wouldn't be offended, but that's me.

Citing him might be a problem JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #1
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #4
And was this private corporation 1Strong? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #5
You got it! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #7
"if that's the best you got when he's been dead for almost 50 years - you've got a problem." Number23 Oct 2015 #14
Weirdly combative? Rebkeh Oct 2015 #17
It was the "will this get me in trouble here and I don't care if it does" bit that was needlessly Number23 Oct 2015 #21
I'm still confused Rebkeh Oct 2015 #25
And it was explained to you. Over and over again Number23 Oct 2015 #26
I like O'Malley, Rebkeh Oct 2015 #16
The not comparing to other countries I agree with JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #32
Here's why I caution you about going down the socialism path JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #2
here is a good place to start re: philosophy tishaLA Oct 2015 #3
Great article Rebkeh Oct 2015 #18
So you ask the question... tishaLA Oct 2015 #28
Welcome to DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #6
The first link Rebkeh Oct 2015 #19
Something just struck me ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #8
Someone must have told her? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #10
For a couple of reasons Rebkeh Oct 2015 #20
I loved bernie when I posted berniesoblack! bravenak Oct 2015 #27
Giving this to you again - I see 1strong did first JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #9
I'm not sure of your age but Kind of Blue Oct 2015 #11
"So the immediate "so what" popped into my mind as well when BS proclaimed his march with Dr. King." Number23 Oct 2015 #15
Yeah, she's still officially with the campaign. Kind of Blue Oct 2015 #22
Thanks for the link Rebkeh Oct 2015 #23
I agree with you that progressivism is better Kind of Blue Oct 2015 #29
MLK is not a magic racial trump card. kwassa Oct 2015 #12
It would be a turn off to me... onpatrol98 Oct 2015 #13
You clearly are not mentally challenged... Rebkeh Oct 2015 #24
"I know Bernie believes in equal rights. Kind of Blue Oct 2015 #30
That's just it though Rebkeh Oct 2015 #31
"If that's a problem, it's not my problem." Kind of Blue Oct 2015 #33
?? I came here to ask Rebkeh Oct 2015 #34
What did you ask in 25 words or less, again? randys1 Oct 2015 #35
As far as I can tell, its this: tishaLA Oct 2015 #36
Yeah, OK. I dont know the answer anymore, I spend most of my time on here randys1 Oct 2015 #37
It is, but Rebkeh Oct 2015 #39
Sorry about that. I thought it was your agenda Kind of Blue Oct 2015 #38
I think I see the disconnect Rebkeh Oct 2015 #40
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