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In reply to the discussion: Ta-Nehisi Coates, Bernie Sanders, and Reparations [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)123. This ...
unless it is basically an elaborate case of sour grapes or more accurately the pony syndrome (if I can't have my pony fuck that other guys pony).
Is pretty much the opposite of what TNC has said ... repeatedly. He fully supports all of Bernie's "ponies" ... he just questions the sudden "pragmatism" on this particular pony.
The latter proposition seems plausible when you consider that coates spends his time writing for publications like harpers and atlantic whose paying readerships are all 95% white and upper middle class. Coates has always said that he's surprised by the fact that his readership is largely white, you'd think having taken this many paychecks he would have gotten over his surprise by now.
I have heard him say this. I think what he is saying is he is surprised that his readership CONTINUES to be 95% white, given the topics he writes about.
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Because in some quarters, anything unflattering towards a certian candidate ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jan 2016
#120
Because it holds him to his own standards. Just like when a Republican politician says they are
stevenleser
Jan 2016
#197
Thanks for your service in working on grass roots campaigns and finance reform.
jonestonesusa
Jan 2016
#185
What you're saying though sounds a lot like "some revolutionary ideas (like the ones the white
MADem
Jan 2016
#138
What's "impractical and very divisive" (Sanders' words) is Sanders' selective outrage.
MADem
Jan 2016
#141
I don't agree that free college and universal health care are "white-friendly"
jonestonesusa
Jan 2016
#182
If I'm being reductive, it's because I see that you aren't understanding TNC's point.
MADem
Jan 2016
#189
ZING. You are the opposite of wildeyed! You focused like a laser beam on the nub, the essence, of
MADem
Jan 2016
#137
I do believe that this is your first post here and you come in here solely to launch personal
Number23
Jan 2016
#3
You may find it suspicious but it's pretty clear that most people who have actually listened to
Number23
Jan 2016
#73
And you guys continue to track into this forum calling this a hit piece and an "attack"
Number23
Jan 2016
#146
tishaLA, that is a great thread you started. Your responses to the derp posts are terrific.
emulatorloo
Jan 2016
#50
what i noticed about that thread is for days now we have had thread after thread from certain ones
JI7
Jan 2016
#12
How many times have even the mildest suggestions that Sanders may not be able to accomplish all that
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#167
A very easy answer - because they think nonetheless he will do the most for them.
highprincipleswork
Jan 2016
#28
Okay ... That would be one answer ...an answer without foundation; but, an answer none the less ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jan 2016
#34
Hillary supporters usually don't try to make her out to be something so Great that only she will do
JI7
Jan 2016
#104
I don't wish to offend, but what Civil Rights action did President Obama get done in the first 90?
highprincipleswork
Jan 2016
#61
You are right. Well familiar with it, but forgot it was signed so fast.
highprincipleswork
Jan 2016
#90
i believe Sanders cares about POC also and i support Sanders, but i also don't make him out to be
JI7
Jan 2016
#103
You are asking a politician to admit that the economic success of the US is based on
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#53
I think we, in this group, know the answer to that very poignant observation. This is what puzzles..
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2016
#79
"Outsider"; "Insider". It all equals "White". They're the ones who feel that anything given to.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2016
#93
It wouldn't make sense for him to go after Hillary. She's being a realist on policy.
stevenleser
Jan 2016
#198
You're laughing because you don't understand it. If you got it, you wouldn't be laughing. nt
stevenleser
Jan 2016
#206
Crickets from those in this thread, including the OP, to your questions.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2016
#145
That's,probably, because we are at the point of the learning curve, where ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jan 2016
#151
Well, some at least have arrived there ... others ... well, not so much. eom
1StrongBlackMan
Jan 2016
#155
I expected for most of us in this forum to fully understand what Coates was saying
Number23
Jan 2016
#20
I have never even looked at it that way. I have traditionally not been in favor of reparations
Number23
Jan 2016
#71
If we're going to go after billionaires, why not get that money for the people who made them rich?
Starry Messenger
Jan 2016
#99
And other countries have paid reparations for people who have been victimized by the State too
Number23
Jan 2016
#100
One may be harder than the other, but both are unattainable with today's Congress.
SunSeeker
Jan 2016
#59
Funny that you would say Bernie would never sign off on bad Republican legislation.
SunSeeker
Jan 2016
#91
This piece is not "about" Sanders; he's just an example. It's "about" reparations
Recursion
Jan 2016
#19
OK, but Coates is "the guy who wrote a famous recent piece advocating reparations"
Recursion
Jan 2016
#30
Side point: Coates's use of tense, and control of time in his narrative, is in my mind unmatched
Recursion
Jan 2016
#110
If that's what you took out of Coates' piece then it explains everything about this OP
Number23
Jan 2016
#75
I'm not repeating anything. The response came up completely on its own after reading your post
Number23
Jan 2016
#149
I think Coates is in many ways a throwback to impressionism, which is why we need him
Recursion
Jan 2016
#114
See, now ... you two are going to force my to expand my knowledge base ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jan 2016
#122
FDR couldn't bring himself to desegregate the Armed Forces during a war that was all about
MADem
Jan 2016
#170
I believe that refers to the program used to make lend/no lend decisions ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jan 2016
#44
Ok, so the idea is that buying up the algorithm would prevent the practice going forward?
aikoaiko
Jan 2016
#45
Well, i was mostly being snarky about how it's suddenly hard to decide who's "black"
Recursion
Jan 2016
#55
it's not about slavery , it's about discrimination of blacks from housing assistance and many
JI7
Jan 2016
#102
Go on and count up how many times the Congress has introduced a bill to repeal the ACA
MADem
Jan 2016
#142