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Before reading the piece, I will say ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #1
Why do you say that? jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #105
Because in some quarters, anything unflattering towards a certian candidate ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #120
And, LITERALLY IN AS MANY WORDS Recursion Jan 2016 #130
You'd have to actually read the piece to know that . . . Empowerer Jan 2016 #164
I read the piece. It's not a lengthy or difficult read. jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #177
Because it holds him to his own standards. Just like when a Republican politician says they are stevenleser Jan 2016 #197
Thank you. This only seems to be difficult to understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #200
I will say amen to that... comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #202
As I have repeatedly said in the post about this in GDP... tishaLA Jan 2016 #2
Well, I think TNC and many others nyabingi Jan 2016 #26
Yes, it's the logical inconsistency of his position that Coates points out. wildeyed Jan 2016 #78
I just love everything you post. tishaLA Jan 2016 #82
That is such a nice thing to say! wildeyed Jan 2016 #84
I do, too! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #196
I disagree for a few reasons with Coates. jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #106
I live in NC wildeyed Jan 2016 #127
Thanks for your service in working on grass roots campaigns and finance reform. jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #185
What you're saying though sounds a lot like "some revolutionary ideas (like the ones the white MADem Jan 2016 #138
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #157
MWAH! Empowerer Jan 2016 #166
So if UHC is unrealistic aren't reparations unrealistic too? jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #178
You are completely missing TNC's point. You need to read his essay. MADem Jan 2016 #188
What's "impractical and very divisive" (Sanders' words) is Sanders' selective outrage. MADem Jan 2016 #141
I don't agree that free college and universal health care are "white-friendly" jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #182
Well, you don't have to agree, but they are. MADem Jan 2016 #184
You had a good movie line in your response. jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #187
If I'm being reductive, it's because I see that you aren't understanding TNC's point. MADem Jan 2016 #189
ZING. You are the opposite of wildeyed! You focused like a laser beam on the nub, the essence, of MADem Jan 2016 #137
Beautifully stated, as usual. Empowerer Jan 2016 #165
excellent observation... comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #203
I do believe that this is your first post here and you come in here solely to launch personal Number23 Jan 2016 #3
Yes, this is my first post here nyabingi Jan 2016 #29
You may find it suspicious but it's pretty clear that most people who have actually listened to Number23 Jan 2016 #73
I agree that Sanders sounds more like a standard jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #107
And you guys continue to track into this forum calling this a hit piece and an "attack" Number23 Jan 2016 #146
EXACTLY!!!! nt MADem Jan 2016 #158
Okay ... I read the piece and thought it was great ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #4
As usual, you've reached the crux of the matter and rage. Number23 Jan 2016 #5
But I'd beeter be careful ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #6
You really need to read the thread in GDP tishaLA Jan 2016 #8
Link? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #10
.... tishaLA Jan 2016 #11
tishaLA, that is a great thread you started. Your responses to the derp posts are terrific. emulatorloo Jan 2016 #50
uponit777 whupped some SERIOUS ass in that thread too Number23 Jan 2016 #74
Yes indeed uponit did! And you obliterated a few asses yourself! emulatorloo Jan 2016 #76
I should have read that last night. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #51
what i noticed about that thread is for days now we have had thread after thread from certain ones JI7 Jan 2016 #12
And that's what I think Coates is pointing to, this question of workability tishaLA Jan 2016 #14
You have fucking nailed it once again Number23 Jan 2016 #18
How many times have even the mildest suggestions that Sanders may not be able to accomplish all that Empowerer Jan 2016 #167
You noticed that too... randys1 Jan 2016 #54
NAILED IT! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #81
A very easy answer - because they think nonetheless he will do the most for them. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #28
Okay ... That would be one answer ...an answer without foundation; but, an answer none the less ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #34
I never said anyone had to believe that Bernie offers more. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #60
That's why I believe you should switch to O'Malley JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #63
I do and will support the candidate that I ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #64
I'm glad you wrote this JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #65
That's cool. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #87
Hillary supporters usually don't try to make her out to be something so Great that only she will do JI7 Jan 2016 #104
This. . . Empowerer Jan 2016 #168
"Trickle down justice" indeed! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #152
And when he doesn't after his first 90 days JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #52
I don't wish to offend, but what Civil Rights action did President Obama get done in the first 90? highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #61
Not offended but shocked! JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #62
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #83
Or, the DoJ's action on Voter Rights! eom 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #88
Shhh at DU JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #116
Second, only to President Obama ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #121
(Shortly before they spent seven years knocking him lovemydog Jan 2016 #160
LOL ... Doesn't that bolster my "ridiculous claim" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #163
You are right. Well familiar with it, but forgot it was signed so fast. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #90
I don't believe it about O'Malley at all JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #115
Very well-said JAG. lovemydog Jan 2016 #143
i believe Sanders cares about POC also and i support Sanders, but i also don't make him out to be JI7 Jan 2016 #103
You are asking a politician to admit that the economic success of the US is based on guillaumeb Jan 2016 #53
I think we, in this group, know the answer to that very poignant observation. This is what puzzles.. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #79
And some of his "insider" support, as well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #89
"Outsider"; "Insider". It all equals "White". They're the ones who feel that anything given to..... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #93
Perhaps Uponthegears Jan 2016 #85
It wouldn't make sense for him to go after Hillary. She's being a realist on policy. stevenleser Jan 2016 #198
That's funny Uponthegears Jan 2016 #199
Nope, you're still not getting it. stevenleser Jan 2016 #204
Still laughing Uponthegears Jan 2016 #205
You're laughing because you don't understand it. If you got it, you wouldn't be laughing. nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #206
Toro or Honda? Uponthegears Jan 2016 #207
As someone who leans toward Sanders... OneGrassRoot Jan 2016 #126
Thank YOU!!! Empowerer Jan 2016 #169
Crickets from those in this thread, including the OP, to your questions. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #145
That's,probably, because we are at the point of the learning curve, where ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #151
Uh-huh! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #153
Well, some at least have arrived there ... others ... well, not so much. eom 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #155
A) I am strongly in favor of reparations Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #7
I would suggest that Bernie provided his answer ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #9
Yep, but I wanted to probe it more. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #16
Let me be more explicit here ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #35
Sad but true. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #41
Ouch! wildeyed Jan 2016 #80
Forgive me ... I was being racist, again! eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #134
Oof (nt) Recursion Jan 2016 #131
Not just "divisive." "Impractical and VERY divisive!!" MADem Jan 2016 #144
I expected for most of us in this forum to fully understand what Coates was saying Number23 Jan 2016 #20
This campaign is amazing to me, and not in a good way. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #23
I have never even looked at it that way. I have traditionally not been in favor of reparations Number23 Jan 2016 #71
If we're going to go after billionaires, why not get that money for the people who made them rich? Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #99
And other countries have paid reparations for people who have been victimized by the State too Number23 Jan 2016 #100
TNC won't venture to question the other nyabingi Jan 2016 #38
He mentioned "revolution" several times in the last debate. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #42
so what do you disagree with ? JI7 Jan 2016 #13
You missed the point of the piece. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #15
I'm not even sure Sanders is "the point" of the piece; he's just an example Recursion Jan 2016 #17
You are 100% correct tishaLA Jan 2016 #22
Well, but there was a reason Coates picked Sanders as an "example." SunSeeker Jan 2016 #24
See ? That's what happens when one reads a piece for what's there ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #36
I think the real issue and the discussion that's nyabingi Jan 2016 #39
One may be harder than the other, but both are unattainable with today's Congress. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #59
I frankly believe that the push for any kind nyabingi Jan 2016 #67
Funny that you would say Bernie would never sign off on bad Republican legislation. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #91
And I frankly believe that any push for reparations wildeyed Jan 2016 #94
This piece is not "about" Sanders; he's just an example. It's "about" reparations Recursion Jan 2016 #19
Fabulous post. Number23 Jan 2016 #21
I agree with your statement that nyabingi Jan 2016 #25
OK, but Coates is "the guy who wrote a famous recent piece advocating reparations" Recursion Jan 2016 #30
So now Coates is the absolute nyabingi Jan 2016 #40
If this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #47
I read the article, nyabingi Jan 2016 #49
I don't think TNC was speaking past tense ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #58
Side point: Coates's use of tense, and control of time in his narrative, is in my mind unmatched Recursion Jan 2016 #110
If that's what you took out of Coates' piece then it explains everything about this OP Number23 Jan 2016 #75
Um, you don't need to repeat nyabingi Jan 2016 #135
I'm not repeating anything. The response came up completely on its own after reading your post Number23 Jan 2016 #149
Well, no: Coates quotes several actual authorities on reparations Recursion Jan 2016 #108
I'd like to hear more about this James-Coates connection tishaLA Jan 2016 #113
I think Coates is in many ways a throwback to impressionism, which is why we need him Recursion Jan 2016 #114
See, now ... you two are going to force my to expand my knowledge base ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #122
I need to go back to James work JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #129
Yeah, I need to re-read him too Recursion Jan 2016 #132
Amazing response! wildeyed Jan 2016 #128
"The Souls of Black Folk" is probably the best DuBois place to start Recursion Jan 2016 #133
Your posts in this thread are absolutely stellar Number23 Jan 2016 #179
He just won the national book awards top prize for non fiction JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #33
Hmmm, they either ignore wildeyed Jan 2016 #95
Wilkerson and Coates absolutely opened my eyes to this Recursion Jan 2016 #109
FDR couldn't bring himself to desegregate the Armed Forces during a war that was all about MADem Jan 2016 #170
We're you alive in 1968 JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #27
Or just buy up CountryWide's redlining algorithm (nt) Recursion Jan 2016 #31
That would be a good start too! JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #32
The algorithm that is still in play, today ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #37
What does it mean to buy up a lender's algorithm? aikoaiko Jan 2016 #43
I believe that refers to the program used to make lend/no lend decisions ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #44
Ok, so the idea is that buying up the algorithm would prevent the practice going forward? aikoaiko Jan 2016 #45
Yes to both questions ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #46
Right, that's one possible form of many, and probably not a great one Recursion Jan 2016 #56
Well, i was mostly being snarky about how it's suddenly hard to decide who's "black" Recursion Jan 2016 #55
Taking or keeping money out of the hands of Black folks. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #57
Or look at it like this JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #66
I can understand and appreciate that model. aikoaiko Jan 2016 #68
Never read BAR JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #69
Yes, thank you. aikoaiko Jan 2016 #70
You have GOT to know my last boss! :-) JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #72
I like your ideas. aikoaiko Jan 2016 #86
That is one fabulous post. Number23 Jan 2016 #77
I've loved this whole thread (nt) Recursion Jan 2016 #111
I think I could live with that. aikoaiko Jan 2016 #48
Infrastructure investments too? wildeyed Jan 2016 #96
No - it would help all who were black on the 2010 census JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #97
Coates will be on All In w/Chris Hayes tonight tishaLA Jan 2016 #92
Bad Chris ... How dare you broach the topic of ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #98
I don't know that I would put single payer and reparations sahel Jan 2016 #101
it's not about slavery , it's about discrimination of blacks from housing assistance and many JI7 Jan 2016 #102
Why is it so hard to get people to read the actual essay? Recursion Jan 2016 #112
They don't want to hear JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #118
And I think that's the one Recursion Jan 2016 #119
I read it sahel Jan 2016 #174
Incorrect sahel Jan 2016 #176
Stop the slavery well - nonsense JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #117
This ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #123
head->desk Recursion Jan 2016 #124
Agreed; but, as you pointed out ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #125
Im sure we all support each others ponies sahel Jan 2016 #173
Have you read ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #181
"I wouldn't have a problem with that JI7 Jan 2016 #183
Of course, many here are liberals opposed to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #194
Exactly sahel Jan 2016 #193
There is too much for me to respond to via ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #195
Thank you for actually addressing one of the main issues nyabingi Jan 2016 #140
He's fomenting the revolution, one Harper's editorial at a time sahel Jan 2016 #175
too bad he doesn't write for Harper's tishaLA Jan 2016 #186
"pretty radical black writer" sahel Jan 2016 #192
You completely missed Mr. Coates' point. Completely. MADem Jan 2016 #136
The idea of universal healthcare is not nyabingi Jan 2016 #139
Go on and count up how many times the Congress has introduced a bill to repeal the ACA MADem Jan 2016 #142
The drive to repeal the ACA was mainly Republican nyabingi Jan 2016 #147
This conversation isn't about me. MADem Jan 2016 #156
You keep speaking my mind. Thank you. Empowerer Jan 2016 #171
Happy to oblige!!! MADem Jan 2016 #172
wow. now this issue is a conspiracy by Hillary against Sanders JI7 Jan 2016 #159
I just want to say this is one of my favorite threads ever on DU tishaLA Jan 2016 #148
I asked for some thoughts on it nyabingi Jan 2016 #150
Thanks for the original post. lovemydog Jan 2016 #162
Right? wildeyed Jan 2016 #154
Jinx! I was just about to say the same thing. lovemydog Jan 2016 #161
Good Lord, I was just about to post the same thing!! OP started with humble (to say the least) Number23 Jan 2016 #180
This really was one of the best DU threads I've read in a long time Recursion Jan 2016 #191
I think Bernie's answer to the question was excellent bluestateguy Jan 2016 #190
Good ... others are less than impressed. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #201
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #208
native Americans got reparations.... heaven05 Feb 2016 #209
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