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lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
42. Most educational 23 minutes I've spent in a long time.
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:40 PM
May 2016

Thank you for sharing the clip KOB.

Desensitization of white people, as that guy describes, starts at an early age. I saw and felt it in public schools, among peers and in family too. Thousands of times. Many white liberals tend to feel they've 'done enough' by voting or not being explicitly racist. It's disturbing to them to consider their privilege because they don't think of themselves as 'racist.'

Why do they keep confusing the two terms? I think that's part of the obfuscation discussed in that clip. As that guy says, it becomes ingrained that 'I'm a good person' so don't call anything I do racist or privileged. They get defensive instead of listening further.

I can relate to the discomfort that white guy was feeling. It's easier to block out than confront. For example, something I've seen here. Most original posts are an attempt to share information or ask how everyone's feeling about something. Sometimes if the response isn't what they want to hear (confirming how great and all-knowing they are) a retort is 'But you don't speak for all black people.' That's something I never encounter. Lord knows I've gotten wacko responses. But no one's ever said 'You don't speak for all white people.' It's assumed as part of white privilege that each white person is an individual human being whereas a black person who disagrees is 'the other.' Some spokesperson or non-spokesperson, rather than an individual also sharing their experiences.

I'm fascinated as you are with historical antecedents. Good luck in your explorations. Feel free to share any other books or texts. The book Anti-Intellectualism in American Life and the essay The Paranoid Style in American Politics, both by Richard Hofstadter, may be useful. Also, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, a sermon by revivalist christian theologian Jonathan Edwards. Preached in Massachusetts & a starting point for origins of puritanism in the first colonies. It's radically different in tone and style from the ecumenical approach found in other churches like unitarian or presbyterian (how I was raised). It's more self-righteous and it's interesting to note that they called themselves 'New Lights' and their movement 'The Great Awakening.' In other words, kind of like 'We know what's best and if you're not enlightened like us then you're a lesser being!'

Does anyone know the name of movie at the end of the clip? It's cheesy (!) but is it based on a real life episode?

Have you noticed these two patterns? [View all] Kind of Blue May 2016 OP
The primary was always rigged for Clinton. They dynastic one. bkkyosemite May 2016 #1
I understand what you're saying but Kind of Blue May 2016 #2
Yes, Trump already told us it was rigged. He won. kwassa May 2016 #8
When you back a losing candidate who runs a lousy campaign and never corrects course... KittyWampus May 2016 #19
+ a freaking million Number23 May 2016 #48
Thank you, KittyWampus and Kwaasa for answering that. Kind of Blue May 2016 #64
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Eh? JustAnotherGen May 2016 #14
Will do. And best to keep ahead of the Kind of Blue May 2016 #49
No ... It's consistent with DU:progressive, since January 2009. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #28
The atmosphere around this election has been dismal. Starry Messenger May 2016 #4
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LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #29
As my mom used to say, You want me to suffer Kind of Blue May 2016 #57
There's an old saying ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #60
HA!!! That should have been the title of this OP! Kind of Blue May 2016 #61
Got this from my sister this morning. Kind of Blue May 2016 #50
On point!! Starry Messenger May 2016 #52
I honestly think it is... Silver_Witch May 2016 #5
If you directly vote for Trump and he wins the result is on you. Kind of Blue May 2016 #10
And no mention... freebrew May 2016 #21
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Yep, totally correct...nt freebrew May 2016 #54
Correction ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #30
Got it! Said much better. Kind of Blue May 2016 #53
Trump will not win a GE leftofcool May 2016 #6
Agreed! Kind of Blue May 2016 #11
I hope you are right! serbbral May 2016 #37
Yes. lovemydog May 2016 #12
Yeah, a trump presidency might not affect the Kind of Blue May 2016 #13
I've been wondering the same. lovemydog May 2016 #16
Yes! white purintanism is a good place to start Kind of Blue May 2016 #26
Most educational 23 minutes I've spent in a long time. lovemydog May 2016 #42
Funny, I thought the movie at the end Kind of Blue May 2016 #55
the presidential primary season brings out ALL that is ugly on DU cloudythescribbler May 2016 #15
I've got to get to work but I look forward to Kind of Blue May 2016 #27
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Well... Chitown Kev May 2016 #33
You mean ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #36
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I TOTALLY AGREE! serbbral May 2016 #39
Nope ... It was Oprah ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #41
Would you please write this ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #38
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notion of how identity politics UNITES more than it divides is VERY important cloudythescribbler May 2016 #66
What the hell? We all expect Hillary to beat her good buddy, Trump! Herman4747 May 2016 #17
Seems akin to the 'good buddy' photos of Roosevelt and Stalin. LanternWaste May 2016 #18
Who had to meet because they were both fighting a common enemy. Herman4747 May 2016 #20
Wonder why you are posting this cr*p in this forum. KittyWampus May 2016 #23
I'm guessing that Roosevelt didn't attend Stalin's daughter's wedding. nt 99th_Monkey May 2016 #22
So on point to the OP and so appropriate for the Group you're in. KittyWampus May 2016 #24
A most reasonable guess, indeed! nt Herman4747 May 2016 #25
Was he (Roosevelt) invited? 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #32
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Civil, you and your doctor. Kind of Blue May 2016 #58
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"i have no patience for this self indulgent shit" Kind of Blue May 2016 #62
I love how the ones screaming about how they hate Hillary because she is rich and an alleged racist Number23 May 2016 #47
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