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pnwmom

(108,959 posts) Wed May 18, 2016, 10:20 AM May 2016

Bernie just equated working voters with white voters, again. [View all]

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He just doesn't get it.

No, Bernie, African American and Hispanic people aren't being tempted by Trump and his nonsense. And they do work. And vote. Trump hasn't captured the votes of "the majority of working people" because he hasn't captured PoC.

http://fortune.com/2016/05/18/democrats-pressuring-bernie-sanders/

Sanders also warned of “a very sad and tragic option” for the party: “to choose to maintain its status quo structure, remain dependent on big-money campaign contributions and be a party with limited participation and limited energy. And a party which incredibly is allowing a right-wing extremist Republican Party to capture the votes of the majority of working people in this country.”

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Bernie just equated working voters with white voters, again. [View all] pnwmom May 2016 OP

UGH. Iliyah May 2016 #1

I see no such equation in this statement. Silver_Witch May 2016 #2

I don't see it, either. I think they are looking at something and finding it because they WANT it to Hiraeth May 2016 #3

Any majority of working voters has to include a substantial number of PoC. Trump pnwmom May 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth May 2016 #7

Please clarify... Haveadream May 2016 #72

The corollary being just as possible... LanternWaste May 2016 #88

Then you can't do math. Any majority of working voters would have to include a substantial pnwmom May 2016 #4

Considering that 90% of minorities consider Trump the scum of the earth and the percentages of Number23 May 2016 #64

Over 40% of the "Working Class" are POC The Polack MSgt May 2016 #6

well, perhaps that breaks it down in terminology pnwmom can understand. Hiraeth May 2016 #9

Senator Sanders may very well want to do what you say JustAnotherGen May 2016 #14

well, you see, now you open it up for discussion about Clinton and Hiraeth May 2016 #15

I don't think she is JustAnotherGen May 2016 #16

see I think she is and that is why you and I will continue to disagree. Hiraeth May 2016 #23

No - we'll disagree JustAnotherGen May 2016 #27

what say you to Nina Turner? Hiraeth May 2016 #31

She is irrelevant to me JustAnotherGen May 2016 #38

And with that I am outta here. Group unsubscribed Hiraeth May 2016 #60

Fantastic! Thanks so much!!! Number23 May 2016 #65

I like it when folks find their own solutions too. Starry Messenger May 2016 #75

Ironically, that's the only statement you've made in this thread that I agree with. Buh Bye! Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #94

How DARE you not think that Nina Turner is incredibly important!!!111 Number23 May 2016 #67

lol Chitown Kev May 2016 #84

Shhh JustAnotherGen May 2016 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #53

"Hillary hates people." Total B.S. A person who hates people doesn't pnwmom May 2016 #45

There is a lot you don't know about that period. During the 90s the Clintons were setting up this Baobab May 2016 #96

But... isn't that Clinton's plan? Scootaloo May 2016 #25

I'd back away JustAnotherGen May 2016 #28

Very well. Scootaloo May 2016 #33

I will answer it publicly JustAnotherGen May 2016 #37

Even though you don't have to justify anything to anyone....I appreciate your post Digital Puppy May 2016 #40

We have to stop Trump JustAnotherGen May 2016 #41

Wow, JAG. What a life you have had. pnwmom May 2016 #46

You are a gem. A jewel. An incredibly special, remarkable human being Number23 May 2016 #62

You have worked hard my family works hard too!!! rbrnmw May 2016 #70

Wonderful post. Also, about the PBXes Recursion May 2016 #83

Beautifully and passionately stated, JAG. Hekate May 2016 #92

"Sanders knows this, he just wants to get a slice of the slightly less racist white people" Number23 May 2016 #63

It's hyperbole not racism. The point of his whole campaign, I would argue, Blue Meany May 2016 #8

Question... fleabiscuit May 2016 #77

I mean by this people who work for a living Blue Meany May 2016 #79

Do me a favor and update op with JustAnotherGen May 2016 #10

Ooops, I didn't see your post. But GMTA, it seems! KitSileya May 2016 #11

votes of the majority of working people in this country JustAnotherGen May 2016 #12

Not very many working people are in unions anymore gollygee May 2016 #17

Yep JustAnotherGen May 2016 #21

Yes. My cousin had to take her employer to the EOC -- a scary thing to do pnwmom May 2016 #47

This is why we need a Paycheck Fairness Act JustAnotherGen May 2016 #48

If you mean he wanted to raise the lid on social security earnings, of course that should happen. pnwmom May 2016 #49

Yep raise the lid JustAnotherGen May 2016 #50

And I think he missed the rise of the Obama coalition. pnwmom May 2016 #42

Here's a good article about this but about Trump and not Sanders gollygee May 2016 #13

forget those other 60% .... ? you might think you are not saying that but, Hiraeth May 2016 #18

Math gollygee May 2016 #20

Yep again JustAnotherGen May 2016 #22

do you think ALL 40% of those will come out to vote for her? I don't. Hiraeth May 2016 #24

Have you done a survey? gollygee May 2016 #26

a formal survey? lol. Look, where I was working there are more black people than white Hiraeth May 2016 #30

NAFTA did away with jobs where I live too gollygee May 2016 #32

The youger blacks that have talked are not registered to vote and think the whole thing is a joke. Hiraeth May 2016 #34

I think it's arrogant to say that people vote against Bernie because they lack information gollygee May 2016 #35

personally, I think this whole thread/OP is arrogant. I am done here. Hiraeth May 2016 #36

After reading your posts in this thread, I'm not the slightest bit surprised that black people would Number23 May 2016 #68

They voted for President Obama. And I think they will vote for Hillary and against Trump. pnwmom May 2016 #44

Yes. Romney lost even though he had the majority of white men and white women. pnwmom May 2016 #43

Thanks for this link. The Polack MSgt May 2016 #19

I agree that he's not doing it purposely -- the same as some of the problems with women. pnwmom May 2016 #39

So women, African Americans, Hispanic/Latinos don't belong to the working class. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #29

PoC have fit nicely into the Hillary Clinton victim/aggressor/divider policy. More the pity for the highprincipleswork May 2016 #51

bernie has jumped the shark MariaThinks May 2016 #52

That's so Hillary! CanadaexPat May 2016 #54

Sounds like nit-picking at a generalization to me. immoderate May 2016 #55

It's not nit-picking to point out that Bernie seems to have a blind spot pnwmom May 2016 #56

Bernie doesn't think all workers are white. immoderate May 2016 #57

He must have been thinking that when he said this: pnwmom May 2016 #58

Well, I don't think he anticipated this level of equivocation. immoderate May 2016 #59

Equivocation? You mean, attentive reading? n/t pnwmom May 2016 #66

Yeah, reading things that aren't there. immoderate May 2016 #78

Ah, 'inference!' A valid literary method of both communicating and understanding LanternWaste May 2016 #90

Can things be inferred that were not implied? immoderate May 2016 #91

I too, used to imply that 'clear, concise language' is simply a tactic. LanternWaste May 2016 #89

he has shiity advisors. JI7 May 2016 #61

Read Josh Marshall at TPM. It's not Bernie's advisors that are the problem Number23 May 2016 #69

I really thought he was getting advice from Weaver rbrnmw May 2016 #71

I thought the same thing. That he was a great guy just getting bad advice Number23 May 2016 #73

I started out a supporter last Summer rbrnmw May 2016 #74

Yeah, the TPM piece really troubled me Recursion May 2016 #86

Wow. There's no doubt in my mind it's absolutely correct. fleabiscuit May 2016 #80

i still wonder if it's lack of good advisors, his campaign is full of people who hate clinton JI7 May 2016 #82

I don't see nor do I even hear of any quotes or suggestions that Bernie did as such. RepubliCON-Watch May 2016 #76

It's 2016. lovemydog May 2016 #81

Sanders is attempting to run a very specific "revolution" ismnotwasm May 2016 #87

White working class people were away us is target..... bettyellen May 2016 #93

BS' constant derision of "identity politics" wasn't a dogwhistle, it was a foghorn. I've known.... Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #95

Weird, I could have sworn that most working class Americans vote D YoungDemCA May 2016 #97