Those guys were very good but not hall of famers. I still think Schilling took steroids, but i'm not excluding anybody for that. What sticks in my throat is that when he first came to national prominence, he wasn't even the best pitcher on his own team, and his numbers, overall, don't compare to that teammate or guys like Clemens, Maddux, etc. who were pitching on the same time.
I have reservations about Manny because he spent very little time at DH and his terrible fielding was exposed over and over. I still think it's part of the game, and while the AL can hide one guy with an excellent bat, his teams couldn't hide 2, so he played a lot of outfield. He was awful, both through lack of effort and poor instincts. So, if he tried he would have been mediocre at best, but he barely even tried. Yet, he was such a scary hitter, i think he belongs.
I'm a lot less exclusive about the membership in this club than many.
That being said, i still say no to Rose.