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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 09:13 PM

7. I agree with everything you said about the drop off.

Now that the game is supposedly clean, we're seeing more and more power pitchers (like Clemens) and five-tool players (like Bonds) fall off a cliff in their early 30s. As a Yankees fan, having to watch Jacoby Ellsbury hobble around at the cost of $21 million a year is a good reminder.

I'm just making a different point. I'm willing to assume that even if Bonds lost everything after 1998, he was already a Hall of Famer.

I pulled the following chart from this article. https://athlonsports.com/mlb/should-steroids-forever-keep-barry-bonds-and-roger-clemens-out-baseballs-hall-fame



I get that nobody can say for sure that Bonds was clean from 1986-98, but if that's an accurate statement, then Bonds' numbers during that period are still first ballot HOF stats. Three MVPs, 414 HRs, 445 SBs, and eight Gold Gloves are better numbers than players than Cal Ripken put up during his entire career.

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