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In reply to the discussion: Sylvia Browne [View all]

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
22. The website isn't entirely consistent in its claims:
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:11 PM
Nov 2013
... in 1974 .. Sylvia incorporated The Nirvana Foundation for Psychic Research, a nonprofit organization (now known as Society of Novus Spiritus) ... To further her goals, Sylvia formed another organization in 1986, Society of Novus Spiritus .. based upon a Christian Gnostic theology... She is training ministers to actively help spread her philosophy. Her goals are to prove that the soul survives death ... P.S. Sylvia does not endorse any "psychic hot lines" ... Any claim to the contrary is a fraudulent misuse of Sylvia's name

The final warning not to be fooled by frauds is a nice touch

Overall such texts seem to me evidence merely of marketing decisions. Despite the name, I doubt the Nirvana Foundation had much to do with Buddhist teachings, though babble incorporating some Buddhist language was popular in the 1970s. And babble referencing the Gnostics similarly was popular in the 1980s.

"Gnostic" is a vague catch-all term. It may describe: second century persons who followed traditional Judaic law and regarded Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah but denied his divinity; dualists who believed in two supreme divinities, one good and one evil, locked in eternal struggle, Jesus of Nazareth being the son of the good one; a movement that accepted various of Paul's epistles but only Luke's gospel; followers of Philumena's supposed revelations from some angel; a second century sect that held, apparently from a reference to Jesus of Nazareth as alpha and omega, that all truth could be inferred from the Greek alphabet; a group that erected an elaborate cosmology from a Deuteronomic reference to G-d as a devouring fire; and any of a number of other movements

So I'd guess the name change from Nirvana Foundation to the "Christian Gnostic" Novus Spiritus was driven by a desire to appeal to a wider demographic

I don't see any reason to change the view I expressed in #18 that the "church" is a conduit to her products and "services"



Sylvia Browne [View all] xfundy Nov 2013 OP
"Who will take her place on the national stage?" ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #1
My mother in law Dorian Gray Nov 2013 #8
The Long Island Medium is in there slugging away, trying to fill the void. Warpy Nov 2013 #2
Mixed? edhopper Nov 2013 #9
Of course she was a charlatan Warpy Nov 2013 #11
That's clearer edhopper Nov 2013 #13
Books bought by grieving pople Lordquinton Nov 2013 #15
What case was that? Th1onein Nov 2013 #27
It's explained downthread, Lordquinton Nov 2013 #39
But what you were saying about her saying that a child was dead, and then ended up dead......not Th1onein Nov 2013 #49
Post # 6 Lordquinton Nov 2013 #51
And James Randi is still alive. longship Nov 2013 #3
Let us not forget she predicted when she would die intaglio Nov 2013 #4
"Missed it by that much" AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #10
Looks like she didn't see that coming! backscatter712 Nov 2013 #56
To be precise, she identified as a New Age Gnostic, a far cry from those you mentioned. rug Nov 2013 #5
"Only God is right all the time" trotsky Nov 2013 #6
I see....I thought it was the kidnapped person who died because of Browne's revelation. Th1onein Nov 2013 #54
I think all mediums Dorian Gray Nov 2013 #7
May she rest in peace. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #12
I suppose those, who want to regard religion simply as a species of "woo," will find it natural struggle4progress Nov 2013 #14
Yeah, what does this have to do with religion? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #16
The mailing address for the "church" is interesting: struggle4progress Nov 2013 #18
So her church is not a church because it is a money-making venture? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #19
You evidently didn't bother to follow and read the links. The church website contains struggle4progress Nov 2013 #20
Is it your claim that any church website that has links to profit-making ventures... trotsky Nov 2013 #21
I've expressed my view and have provided supporting links struggle4progress Nov 2013 #23
Does this mean we aren't allowed to talk about Scientology either? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #25
I think there is a pretty high level of concordance between both believers cbayer Nov 2013 #26
That isn't what is being argued here Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #28
Actually, I don't see anyone arguing that it shouldn't be here. cbayer Nov 2013 #30
There you go again. trotsky Nov 2013 #47
Maybe you responded in the wrong place -- or could benefit from a reading comprehension course struggle4progress Nov 2013 #38
Oh-ho... not very friendly. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2013 #40
You are, of course, entirely free to use the word "religion" however you like: struggle4progress Nov 2013 #41
So you agree I've stated your claim accurately, then? n/t trotsky Nov 2013 #42
We can probably agree you're unlikely ever to do more than caricature my views struggle4progress Nov 2013 #44
Then please correct me instead of being rude. trotsky Nov 2013 #46
Still waiting for your clarification. trotsky Nov 2013 #48
Maybe he is still searching his Google results for an appropriate link? cleanhippie Nov 2013 #55
Browne was pretty famous, despite your personal claim to have never heard of her. trotsky Nov 2013 #17
The website isn't entirely consistent in its claims: struggle4progress Nov 2013 #22
So? trotsky Nov 2013 #43
She was no more and no less a woo-woo okasha Nov 2013 #24
Just visited jesusneverexisted edhopper Nov 2013 #29
Of course. Facts have no meaning to that poster. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #31
It's there on the lower left of the home page. rug Nov 2013 #32
I said there was a small edhopper Nov 2013 #33
That's probably because of the unique demographics that visit jesusneverexisted.com. rug Nov 2013 #34
I don't know what that means? edhopper Nov 2013 #35
Limited viewers, limited ads. rug Nov 2013 #36
that still doesn't counter edhopper Nov 2013 #37
I have respect for the dead, but I reserve it EvilAL Nov 2013 #45
She is gone, but not too far SylviaLives Nov 2013 #50
LMAO trotsky Nov 2013 #52
How much will travel rates for her services increase, now that she must come from some great beyond? struggle4progress Nov 2013 #53
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