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In reply to the discussion: The religious side of Occupy [View all]


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24. I don't consider it stifiling at all.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:42 PM
Mar 2012

It's half the human experience. Politics, religion, sports and the Pepsi challenge all originate from the same place. Faith of one sort or another has fueled our evolutionary success since the Oldauvi Gorge and shows no sign of dissipating.

In this country, at this time, organized religion whether it's fundamentalist Christianity or new age subatomic mysticism has to deal with capitalism and its attendant science of mendacity, marketing, in the "marketplace of ideas". I don't care what kind of religion you call it, when it tries to attach its brand to a political movement it is competing for political power. And that never ends well.

Make no mistake, OWS is attempting to exercise power to control some of the most powerful people and organizations in history. Any organization be it some "new Christianity" or some corporation that attaches itself to that effort is just doing disaster capitalism. The sooner we learn that, the sooner we'll straighten out this mess.

And to answer your question, I was raised southern Baptist and my brother, who I idolize as one of the finest men I have ever known, was a southern Baptist missionary for many years. For my part, I was once a frighteningly effective salesman until I discovered what a horse's ass I had become and became an artist. The subtext of most of my work these days is, "If you can afford this painting, fuck you". You might say I've spent the last three or four decades in the study of what motivates people.

The religious side of Occupy [View all] Thats my opinion Mar 2012 OP
Religion needs to stay out of politics. nt rrneck Mar 2012 #1
It's a social movement, not politics. Do you think religion should stay out of cbayer Mar 2012 #2
O.W.S. rrneck Mar 2012 #8
I find your definition of religion and religious groups very stifling, cbayer Mar 2012 #22
I don't consider it stifiling at all. rrneck Mar 2012 #24
With the tools of money and governement tama Mar 2012 #38
I do. deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #25
Well... ellisonz Mar 2012 #4
Aw ellison, c'mon dude... rrneck Mar 2012 #6
Or we could no wage sectional wars as part of an interfaith movement... ellisonz Mar 2012 #7
It won't work for us. rrneck Mar 2012 #9
Ye of little faith... ellisonz Mar 2012 #10
How many of the 99% are baseball fans? rrneck Mar 2012 #11
Sports is Powerful Stuff ellisonz Mar 2012 #12
And all of its power accrues to sports. rrneck Mar 2012 #13
Sports and religion are as old as politics n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #14
Has there ever been rrneck Mar 2012 #15
Arguably... ellisonz Mar 2012 #16
I said rrneck Mar 2012 #17
Success is relative... ellisonz Mar 2012 #18
It's relative all right. rrneck Mar 2012 #20
And there is Rev. Jesse Jackson and his Operations Breadbaskey/Push/Rainbow cbayer Mar 2012 #28
No! That's bad because he's bringing religion into politics... ellisonz Mar 2012 #29
Who said anything about reason? rrneck Mar 2012 #34
For real rrneck... ellisonz Mar 2012 #35
I wonder how much money he made off that video? nt rrneck Mar 2012 #36
Just a little history Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #23
I like history. rrneck Mar 2012 #37
Thanks for the update. We all have to unite and stand up for the common good. - n/t Jim__ Mar 2012 #3
Great! As an atheist... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #5
Wonderful! God has arrived to save the day! cleanhippie Mar 2012 #19
I find this a useful occurrence. edhopper Mar 2012 #21
Agree. And trying to exclude any groups that share the goals just because cbayer Mar 2012 #27
Large groups like this need to keep their focus on the main issues. edhopper Mar 2012 #32
Trying to make OWS a religious movement... deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #26
Of course nobody is trying to make or pretend that Occupy is a religious movement Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #30
Yes, I don't see in your OP edhopper Mar 2012 #33
So what do people who object to this think of the religious communities cbayer Mar 2012 #31
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