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femmocrat

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4. "I want to believe."

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:35 PM

Mar 2015

It would be nice if the universe worked that way, but I have seen too many rotten b*sturds get away with "murder" (think Cheney), while decent, good-intentioned people suffer endlessly. There is no sense to it except that it is all random.

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Karma: a poll [View all] steve2470 Mar 2015 OP

I don't believe in 2naSalit Mar 2015 #1

"In this world nothing happens to a person that he does not for some reason or other deserve." * Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #2

Believe it AC_Mem Mar 2015 #3

"I want to believe." femmocrat Mar 2015 #4

I tend to think Cheney is probably an intensely miserable human being. cbayer Mar 2015 #6

He's a sociopath. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #37

Good points. It's hard to imagine not caring how others feel towards you, cbayer Mar 2015 #59

I agree that he presents as a sociopath guillaumeb Mar 2015 #79

I'd call it a health problem and a coincidence. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #91

Certainly a sociopath - as regards 'nearly killed by his own body'... LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #110

I agree with you on this. guillaumeb Mar 2015 #118

I bet he'd laugh in your face. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #49

I believe it in the metaphorical kind of way. cbayer Mar 2015 #5

Tell me what a 2 year old with burns on 90% of their body did to receive that? Heddi Mar 2015 #7

This ^ (nt) NeoGreen Mar 2015 #43

I have parking karma that goes with me even when I'm a passenger, not the driver. SheilaT Mar 2015 #30

Lucky you! cbayer Mar 2015 #58

How cool is it that you are such an awesome person that you are rewarded with choice parking spots? trotsky Mar 2015 #60

I've been able to drive into parking garages that have a FULL sign, SheilaT Mar 2015 #105

I love your system and can see how it would be lots of fun. cbayer Mar 2015 #112

I believe it all works out in the end. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #8

But reality shows that not to be the case.... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #25

I didn't say the bible, I said I believe. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #29

So you don't follow what's in the bible? truebrit71 Mar 2015 #56

I am guided by the bible but my faith is more than the bible. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #63

"three legged stool of faith. Scripture, tradition, and human reason" Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #67

I don't get your issue. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #68

Warren apparently has issues okasha Mar 2015 #74

lol. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #75

You have no clue what 'faith' means. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #124

faith is the stool guillaumeb Mar 2015 #78

Ah faith is stool. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #83

supportive like a stool? guillaumeb Mar 2015 #84

To be avoided, like stool. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #86

re-read my second line guillaumeb Mar 2015 #87

Sorry, you don't get to claim human reason as an element of faith. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #123

Thanks, I'm glad to hear that. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #38

yes I take the long-term view also steve2470 Mar 2015 #41

+1000 marym625 Mar 2015 #57

Karma is one of those ideas so superficially reassuring people flock to embrace it. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2015 #9

Does it necessarily mean that everyone gets what is coming to them? cbayer Mar 2015 #10

How fucking callous of you. You have the bedside manner of a ghoul Heddi Mar 2015 #14

Karma is a tendency, not a law. kwassa Mar 2015 #17

I have no problem with my bedside manner Heddi Mar 2015 #19

I think you are wildly misinterpreting what she said. kwassa Mar 2015 #22

but how do you know they're good people? Heddi Mar 2015 #23

well, I agree with you, and cbayer probably does, too. kwassa Mar 2015 #27

but it is a judgement though Heddi Mar 2015 #34

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #16

Is there a translation for your post? kwassa Mar 2015 #18

Then ýou need to work on your comprehension skills... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #26

so, you don't have the translation .... kwassa Mar 2015 #31

Looks like plain english to me. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #46

It certainly appears that the jury had no comprehension problems. okasha Mar 2015 #99

I wouldn't hang my hat on the comprehension skills of most DU juries... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #103

Or did it? AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #109

Sorry kwassock... didn't realize this was a private discussion... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #65

Your apology is accepted. kwassa Mar 2015 #101

Thanks cbayer.... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #102

So, you have a problem with my arguing her viewpoint? kwassa Mar 2015 #104

Said the person interjecting Lordquinton Mar 2015 #76

It's just another verbose personal attack okasha Mar 2015 #73

indeed, and here we have a much better model for the ideal personal attack: Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #85

The most judgmental people don't ever seem to face the consequences for it. trotsky Mar 2015 #53

TOO SLOW! come on already. or am i thinking about smiting? pansypoo53219 Mar 2015 #11

I don't see any mechanism in the Universe edhopper Mar 2015 #12

Is it necessarily a mechanism? cbayer Mar 2015 #21

I was talking about edhopper Mar 2015 #24

Stop touching people without their permission. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #44

I regard it as a psychological rather than physical truth struggle4progress Mar 2015 #13

You said it really well. cbayer Mar 2015 #20

So karma doesn't exist for sociopaths? F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #39

That was a great question. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #45

Have you noticed that more and more people are adopting trolling as a life-style? struggle4progress Mar 2015 #89

I have. A lot of good questions in this thread. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #90

I'm concerned for the gosts. okasha Mar 2015 #107

So autistic children aren't fully human? Lordquinton Mar 2015 #77

Have you noticed that internet communication doesn't always produce coherent conversations? struggle4progress Mar 2015 #93

I have noticed, care to explain how it applies? Lordquinton Mar 2015 #100

the poster appears to be once again spamming a discussion with nonsense Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #115

I don't believe in it. LostOne4Ever Mar 2015 #15

Well said. nt F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #40

no shit Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #52

Gee, how odd that none of the defenders of "karma" have responded to you yet. trotsky Mar 2015 #64

I wish it was true, but I don't believe it really happens. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #28

Karma is bullshit. truebrit71 Mar 2015 #32

Karma, as I understand it, is not just a simplistic system of rewards and punishments. SheilaT Mar 2015 #33

No. And I think that idea is disgusting. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #42

Excellent post. n/t trotsky Mar 2015 #55

does anyone choose to be a sociopath? guillaumeb Mar 2015 #81

A very good question. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #88

there are schools of thought, guillaumeb Mar 2015 #117

So the person who did the evil failed to resist doing it Lordquinton Mar 2015 #80

It's not a system of punishments. That's not the way to think about it. SheilaT Mar 2015 #92

"choosing to be born into a particular situation" Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #111

Yes, I do. However, I know that many people SheilaT Mar 2015 #113

like the rest of religious bullshit, it isn't that it is impossible to believe, it is easy to Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #114

What I often like best about DU, SheilaT Mar 2015 #116

I don't believe in karma... Newest Reality Mar 2015 #35

If it exists... F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #36

hmm, I have no clue about animals! nt steve2470 Mar 2015 #48

If you only think of karma as something SheilaT Mar 2015 #106

Karma is romanticised evil. Justification for the mistreatment of humans. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #47

Ugh, one of many various beliefs in a "just world fallacy" that can be used to explain away... Humanist_Activist Mar 2015 #50

karma = what goes around, comes around Skittles Mar 2015 #51

what does consistent ass-kicking result in, Ms. Skittles ? steve2470 Mar 2015 #62

I WILL KICK KARMA-BELIEVING STEVE2470 ASS Skittles Mar 2015 #94

lol I decided I don't truly believe in karma steve2470 Mar 2015 #95

I WILL KICK OP-CHANGING STEVE2470 ASS Skittles Mar 2015 #96

I'm just getting my ass kicked no matter what lol steve2470 Mar 2015 #97

WOOT!! Skittles Mar 2015 #98

So again, a child run over by a truck - what karma caused that? Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #70

that's what I am saying Skittles Mar 2015 #71

Complete bullshit, and as others have noted... trotsky Mar 2015 #54

I believe in "ripples". PassingFair Mar 2015 #61

Karma AlbertCat Mar 2015 #66

The poll is *way* too simplistic for a vast, vast concept. Hestia Mar 2015 #69

Oh, yes! That's a wonderful book. SheilaT Mar 2015 #108

The poll is fine, and yes it can be reduced to a simple concept. It is bullshit. Pure and simple. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #122

I don't believe in karma as commonly defined.. LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #72

+1 deutsey Mar 2015 #82

Another reason not to act. Iggo Mar 2015 #119

Karma really isn't about that at all. cbayer Mar 2015 #120

Cosmic scales of moral justice is not what Karma is about YankeyMCC Mar 2015 #121

I believe in my interpretation of Zen Buddhism's version of karma, ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #125

For every action libodem Mar 2015 #126

Instant Karma MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #127