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In reply to the discussion: Should the Catholic Church Acknowledge the Destruction of Classical Pagan Culture? [View all]kwassa
(23,340 posts)87. Do you always argue with yourself?
You built that straw man and knocked it down beautifully.
The OP neglected to mention that the persecution of the pagans came not on order from the church, but from Constantine and subsequent Roman emperors, until the later involvement by church bishops.
Creating a very false impression, but fulfilling her agenda.
The persecution of pagans in the late Roman Empire began late during the reign of Constantine the Great, when he ordered the pillaging and the tearing down of some temples.[1][2][3] The first anti-Pagan laws by the Christian state started with Constantine's son Constantius II,[4][5] who was an unwavering opponent of paganism; he ordered the closing of all pagan temples, forbade Pagan sacrifices under pain of death,[2] and removed the traditional Altar of Victory from the Senate.[6] Under his reign ordinary Christians started vandalizing many of the ancient Pagan temples, tombs and monuments.[7][8][9][10]
From 361 till 375, Paganism was relatively tolerated, until three Emperors, Gratian, Valentinian II and Theodosius I, under Bishop of Milan Saint Ambrose's influence, reinstituted and escalated the persecution.[11][12] Under pressure from the zealous Ambrose, Theodosius issued the infamous 391 "Theodosian decrees," a declaration of war on paganism,[12][13] the Altar of Victory was removed again by Gratian, the Vestal Virgins were disbanded, and access to Pagan temples was prohibited.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_pagans_in_the_late_Roman_Empire
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Should the Catholic Church Acknowledge the Destruction of Classical Pagan Culture? [View all]
trotsky
Apr 2015
OP
They can start by apologizing for destroying pagan civilizations period.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2015
#3
There's something to be said in favor of intellectual integrity and careful historical work
struggle4progress
Apr 2015
#4
You're right. The Iberian monarchs funded armed fleets to bring back rare woods for rosaries.
rug
Apr 2015
#9
You actually know more about this issue than my s/o who is part Native American.
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#51
Your assumption that whites can only know about Native Americans from Wikipedia
skepticscott
Apr 2015
#62
You know, phil, yor parroting the phrase "a book of atrocity and genocide" hardly makes it so.
rug
Apr 2015
#34
... Praei/j ... means “mild”, “gentle”, “kind”, “forgiving”. It can also suggest passive resistance
struggle4progress
Apr 2015
#104
If you use the plural "we", kindly read the roster so everyone knows who you speak for.
rug
Apr 2015
#68
Burning people alive seems to have been a popular past-time in many cultures
struggle4progress
Apr 2015
#44
I've never heard the Iconoclasts mentioned in the destruction of Classical art before.
Leontius
Apr 2015
#39
Afraid not. Humans have yet to accept, let alone consistently practice, love your neighbor.
rug
Apr 2015
#41
Exactly. You don't have to look far to see nothing will change ntil we realize we are all neighbors.
rug
Apr 2015
#43
Wait, and your God has consistently practiced this? Where is this written?
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#110
Where is your evidence for this? I strongly doubt that Yahweh/Jesus were the only...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#114
So its, do as I say, not as I do? Why is this god worthy of worship again? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#118
Well, for one, he's very emotional, for example, jealously, which makes no sense...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#115
Again, that "Sacred Scripture" isn't so reliable, so having it intertwined with revelation...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#122
I feel as if we are simply talking past each other, and going around in circles...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#130
That's not the issue, if we treated the Bible like Beowulf, I wouldn't have an issue...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#133
Not a consistent message, no, the Bible is a collection of related stories, legends, myths...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#137
Most of the scholarship I've seen, and yes much of it I sourced(from memory) in my post...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#140
You are basically justifying confirmation bias, is anyone concerned about what actually...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2015
#142
I can't help but still be amazed how gullible and willfully ignorant these people are.
Leontius
Apr 2015
#32
And for showing us there's a one-sentence hit-and-run reply for any topic.
Act_of_Reparation
Apr 2015
#33
She couldn't be bothered with research on the subject. Vestals married to Rome, really.
Leontius
Apr 2015
#103
Fascinating how modern-day Christians react with hate and spittle to this history. n/t
trotsky
Apr 2015
#84
The destruction of pagan culture is whinny(sic) petty little bullshit?
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#95
I for one am glad Leontius is here to remind us what True Christian behavior is all about. n/t
trotsky
Apr 2015
#102
That account contains some curious garblings. It is, of course, quite likely
struggle4progress
Apr 2015
#108
The notion that there was one definite "Classical Pagan Culture" is somewhat odd
struggle4progress
Apr 2015
#131