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Yorktown

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8. The disrespect is directed against harmful ideologies
Sat May 9, 2015, 02:40 AM
May 2015

Eventually, against the fundamentalists who want to prevent these ideologies from being amended.

The Founding Fathers seperated Church from State. They met stiff resistance. Religious types never let go easily.

Whatever the reason, the imprisonment of local Baptists marked a turning point in the life of James Madison. It steered him toward a career in politics as well as a lifelong partnership with his fellow Virginian, Thomas Jefferson. Over the course of many decades devoted to public service (including a combined 16 years in the presidency), these two men would decisively shape the relationship between church and state in the new American republic.

“A Memorial and Remonstrance”
James Madison, 1785Their earliest collaboration followed the framing of Virginia’s state constitution in 1776, which exempted dissenters like the Baptists from paying taxes to support the Anglican clergy. That did not go far enough to satisfy Jefferson, so in 1779 he presented a bill to the state legislature guaranteeing full religious liberty to all Virginians—not merely tax exemptions to non-Anglicans—only to meet with resistance from those who deemed his measure too radical. Among them was Patrick Henry, who countered by proposing a “general assessment” on all citizens to support Christianity itself as the established religion of Virginia.
On Respecting Beliefs [View all] MellowDem May 2015 OP
Wretched, weak, selfish creatures, powerless to resist all manner of temptations. Fumesucker May 2015 #1
I predict that the exact people who should see this won't. Heddi May 2015 #2
Or they will, but... mr blur May 2015 #5
What a sweetheart you are. Starboard Tack May 2015 #10
. hrmjustin May 2015 #14
I do find many of the beliefs of various religions as completely dehumanizing.... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #3
Powerful. Thanks. n/t. bvf May 2015 #4
I'm curious. What did you find so "powerful"? Starboard Tack May 2015 #23
"I'm curious." bvf May 2015 #24
He didn't say anything about phil89 May 2015 #27
Excellent piece, thank you! ( nt) mr blur May 2015 #6
What did you think was excellent about it? Starboard Tack May 2015 #22
I disrespect your dog. Does the dog give a shit? rug May 2015 #7
The disrespect is directed against harmful ideologies Yorktown May 2015 #8
"Eventually, against the fundamentalists" rug May 2015 #13
Some religious doctrines require fundamentalism. Yorktown May 2015 #15
It looks like you don't understand what fundamentalism is. rug May 2015 #16
. hrmjustin May 2015 #17
fundamentalism means the literal application of some ideological program. Yorktown May 2015 #18
The cure for literalism is not more literalism. rug May 2015 #19
Well said rug! hrmjustin May 2015 #20
You are wrong. Literalist pacifism is not a danger. Yorktown May 2015 #21
"Literalist pacifism"? rug May 2015 #25
What a subtle point you made. Yorktown May 2015 #30
Doubtless. But the subject is literalism. rug May 2015 #31
And it is what I answered to Yorktown May 2015 #32
So does your church show respect or disrespect towards LGBT people... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #9
That teaching from your (former) church is ignorant and disrespectful. rug May 2015 #11
Sorry phil89 May 2015 #28
No active Catholic has credibility on this subject? rug May 2015 #29
Why would anyone feel obliged to respect the beliefs of others? Starboard Tack May 2015 #12
I can sign on to this set of statements. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #26
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