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Response to Goblinmonger (Reply #44)

Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:34 PM

45. He does?

Francis, who has been hailed by lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Catholics and progressives for some of his remarks on gay people, such as his famed “Who am I to judge" response on gay priests, has also previously spoken out against gay marriage during his 2-and-a-half-year papacy. But while he’s criticized the "ideological colonization that tries to destroy the family,” for example, he’s also previously said the church is “obsessed” with speaking out against abortion, contraception and gay marriage.

The pope encouraged bishops to not give up on young people who often don't hold the same values as the church on family and marriage.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pope-francis-gay-marriage-and-families_5607eb53e4b0dd850307ed5a

sounds like a mixed message to me.

and no, the Pope doesn't have the power to make a change as radical as this without facing open rebellion among many parts of the church that are very conservative. His is not a dictatorship with an army or secret police force to back it up, and much of the rebellion would be inside Vatican City, as well.

Look at the Anglican Communion, and the shit storm that happened when we ordained a gay bishop back in 2003 in New Hampshire. That battle, or war, to put it more bluntly, is still not over.

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