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muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
5. Different survey/census, different question.
Tue May 24, 2016, 02:49 PM
May 2016

So a direct comparison of the 2 numbers is probably simplistic. from the report's footnotes:

3 NB: This is a notably smaller proportion of the population identifying as Christian
than recorded by the national Censuses of both 2001 and 2011. The discrepancy
between the Census and a large number of other social surveys (which generally
concur with the BSA’s lower figures) has been much discussed. While this is
not the place to delve too deeply into technical issues, it is worth noting that the
Census’ religion question (‘What is your religion?’) is rather different to the BSA’s
(‘What religion, if any, do you consider yourself belonging to?’). On this subject,
see: D. Voas and S. Bruce, ‘Research Note: The 2001 Census and Christian
Identification in Britain’, Journal of Contemporary Religion 19/1 (2004), 23-8; and
A. Day, Believing in Belonging: Belief and Social Identity in the Modern World
(Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2012).

http://www.stmarys.ac.uk/benedict-xvi/docs/2016-may-contemporary-catholicism-report.pdf

Figure 1.3 in the report shows a slow increase in 'no religion' since 1983, from about 40%.
From 25% to 48.5% in just three years? trotsky May 2016 #1
Different survey/census, different question. muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #5
OK that helps explain such a rapid jump. trotsky May 2016 #6
I knew the figure couldn't jump like that, but Europe is now becoming 'not affiliated' Albertoo May 2016 #10
We can hope the US will follow the pattern one day. It is slowly decreasing in the US. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #2
I think we are on the same path in the US...... Little Star May 2016 #3
That's good to hear! Religion has often been so ugly over eons. Not all, but many. It's been just RKP5637 May 2016 #4
You sound like the Rapture is nigh. rug May 2016 #7
The 'rapture' is an opium of the masses high Albertoo May 2016 #8
So is wishful thinking for the awesome. rug May 2016 #9
What is 'wishful thinking for the awesome'? Do you experience it? Albertoo May 2016 #11
"Sounds almost too good to be true, but if it is, it's awesome" rug May 2016 #12
The key fact is not wishful: western democracies are getting progressively free from religion Albertoo May 2016 #13
Actually, I expect he'd be indifferent. The real enemy is capitalism. rug May 2016 #14
False alternative: religion is useless and dangerous, capitalism provides an improvable basis. Albertoo May 2016 #15
there are so many antitheist neocons these days, aren't there? rug May 2016 #16
Nice attempt at guilt by association Albertoo May 2016 #17
I do believe your last sentence is itself a high school debating trick rug May 2016 #18
No. Merely exposing your tactics. Albertoo May 2016 #19
Yeah, well we sent all our religious loonies to America long ago. mr blur May 2016 #20
...and a word from Jesus & Mo: mr blur May 2016 #21
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