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cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
20. War beget$ more war.
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jul 2016

Such a war is guaranteed to be permanent since much of the terrorism would have never happened if we weren't conducting the wars in the first place, regardless of the ultimate reasons for the terrorist acts.

The bozo (Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens) who wrote the linked piece wrote about his support for the Iraq War (the world's worst crime this century) in 2005, well after only the worst war-mongers still supported that unprovoked disaster.

Without previous US atrocities in the ME by the US, 9-11 would have never happened. Osama made this fact clear.

Without US war-mongering since 9-11, most current Muslim terrorism would have never happened. With just one single terrorist operation on 9-11, the US used that as an excuse to obliterated much of the ME. It didn't take much to radicalize the US public.

With thousands of attacks against the ME over many decades, much of the ME is not surprisingly a disaster area, and many bad elements have taken control.

During the Vietnam War, the US obliterated much of Cambodia, massacring men, women and children. Ultimately the Khmer Rouge took power and they continued the slaughter. (The US then supported the Khmer Rouge when Vietnam intervened, like the US now supports some of the Jihadists against Assad.)

The alleged war on terror is driven by special interests with their own selfish agendas. The neocons have long desired the destruction of Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Iran for obvious reasons. Various war profiteers latch on to the neocons, since any war will do.

We should worry about our own behavior, since that is what we have control over, instead of looking down our noses at and interfering in any other nation's business. Inevitably we make things much worse.

Some people seem to enjoy watching the disaster that is the ME, since they like that fact that they can feel superior to the barbarians over there, and it makes some of them feel good about supporting more war. They have bad people over there and everywhere, but we should worry about the bad people over here.

"... The 31-year-old ... drank alcohol, ate pork and took drugs. He never prayed struggle4progress Jul 2016 #1
I suspect your 5 posts will not go over well here. unfortunately. pangaia Jul 2016 #8
You confuse piety with belief TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2016 #26
"... No group has claimed responsibility for the attack. A source close to the investigation tells struggle4progress Jul 2016 #2
Digging into the guys past for any incident. Igel Jul 2016 #13
... The .. truck driver .. was a bitter divorced delivery man with a violent criminal record — but struggle4progress Jul 2016 #3
... Neighbors told BFM Bouhlel was not overtly religious, but had been depressed – and even struggle4progress Jul 2016 #4
Of course, this could describe literally 100's of thousands (millions?) of people - who don't jonno99 Jul 2016 #7
... So far, the picture that has emerged is similar to those responsible for the Paris struggle4progress Jul 2016 #5
Who happened to be Muslim and killed 70 people? Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #10
... So far, the picture that has emerged is similar to those responsible for the Paris struggle4progress Jul 2016 #12
The thing about not showing much interest in religion is what happens when interest is shown. Igel Jul 2016 #14
We "turn to the Lord in times of stress" especially Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #17
So the war on Muslim terrorism is wrong? Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #19
War beget$ more war. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #20
Religion on both sides, makes it worse Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #21
I think so. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #22
Do you really believe in what you wrote? Albertoo Jul 2016 #23
It's called blow-back: cpwm17 Jul 2016 #28
Did you read what I wrote? Albertoo Jul 2016 #29
Yes, it is only a mere coincidence that 9-11 was against the US cpwm17 Jul 2016 #31
You refuse to acknowledge the permanence of islamic expansionist imperialism Albertoo Jul 2016 #32
5 replies I can't even see? trotsky Jul 2016 #6
Have you ever seen this? struggle4progress Jul 2016 #11
that looks like what you're doing RussBLib Jul 2016 #18
I posted that struggle4progress Jul 2016 #27
What do your links prove? Terrorists are often recruited among 'sinful' Muslims Albertoo Jul 2016 #30
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #34
That pic illustrates someone I blocked one or two days ago Albertoo Jul 2016 #24
LOL...You talkin' to me? I'm the only one here. You must be talkin' to me! Iggo Jul 2016 #9
People have strange attitudes when something doesn't fit their internal narrative. Igel Jul 2016 #15
All totalitarian ideologies claim they want to promote goodness Albertoo Jul 2016 #25
He's been pushing this war-mongering neo-con crap for at least a decade. rug Jul 2016 #16
Left and Right might agree for once. Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #33
No one who understands the Left would buy that. rug Jul 2016 #36
Isn't it really ideologies in general?..Like that which drove Stalin to kill 20 million of his own? whathehell Jul 2016 #35
No, it's not in general. trotsky Jul 2016 #37
Uh, yes, I think it is, and unless you can identify whathehell Jul 2016 #38
You really didn't read what I wrote. trotsky Jul 2016 #39
You didn't really read what I wrote either...A common DU experience, I'm afraid. whathehell Jul 2016 #40
Good, I'm glad you can accept Hitler's Catholicism. trotsky Jul 2016 #41
Hitler was about as much a Catholic as Trotsky was an observant Jew.. whathehell Jul 2016 #44
No, you have yet to make your case. trotsky Jul 2016 #46
Um, no, you are the one who's been trying to make a case.. whathehell Jul 2016 #47
Alrighty then. trotsky Jul 2016 #48
Hahahaha. whathehell Jul 2016 #49
You need to study history more Cartoonist Jul 2016 #42
No, I'm afraid you do.. whathehell Jul 2016 #43
Here it is Cartoonist Jul 2016 #45
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